[NL20-NL50] nl25 88 vs BB 3-bet

    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
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      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG2:
      $20.65
      MP1:
      $25.00
      MP2:
      $29.25
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $54.15
      BU:
      $12.70
      SB(Hero):
      $25.00
      BB:
      $26.80


      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 8.
      UTG2 calls $0.25, 4 folds, BU calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.00, UTG2 folds, BU calls $3.75, Hero calls $2.50.

      Flop: ($12.25) J, K, 8 (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $6.25, BU raises to $8.70(All-In), Hero calls $8.70, BB calls $2.45.

      Turn: ($38.35) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $12.30, BB calls $12.30.

      River: ($62.95) 5 (0 players)
      BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $50.65.
      Results follow:
  • 4 replies
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      The call pf is debatable since you are OOP and fish is short.
      As played:
      On this drawy board against two guys just c/rai flop.
    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      true, but with 9.50 in there, and I need to call 2.5, gives me odds of almost 4-1. That was very attractive.

      All I need to do is hit a set and I'll get implied value from OP and TPTK right?

      Well, not this time. Villain had KK for top set. Fish had KJ for top two.

      It felt really good getting the wrong end of set over set. I felt a bunch of karma come off my shoulders, stuff that had built up over the many times I've laid a set over set beat on someone.

      Yeah, c/r on flop is nicer.
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Originally posted by GrantJennings
      true, but with 9.50 in there, and I need to call 2.5, gives me odds of almost 4-1. That was very attractive.

      All I need to do is hit a set and I'll get implied value from OP and TPTK right?

      Well, not this time. Villain had KK for top set. Fish had KJ for top two.

      It felt really good getting the wrong end of set over set. I felt a bunch of karma come off my shoulders, stuff that had built up over the many times I've laid a set over set beat on someone.

      Yeah, c/r on flop is nicer.
      I'm not saying the call pf in wrong. I'm saying that in those spots in the future you need think if you have enough implied to call. In this case it you will need to extract further 9$ to make it an ev+ call which looks reasonable. (9.75+x)/2.5 = 7.5 (x = 9$)

      set over set happens. Don't take it hard. :)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I´d also call pf
      If you can then you should c/rai on the flop.
      shoving turn is ok, you´re pot committed at that point