[NL20-NL50] NL25 AKx2 playing vs. Tilt...?

    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      here are two hands that happened back to back against the same villain.

      I shoved over top of the villain on the second hand to isolate, as I felt my equity against two random cards would be better if I could shut out other players... but that doesn't make any sense as no hand that could overcall couldn't go all in anyway. But holding AK and pot committed, I may as well get all in right now, right?

      How do you deal with tilting donkeys? How about using "Tilt" yourselves? If you get a bad beat laid on you, and then pick up KK, do you ever just shove it right away? Do you find plays like the one employed by this donkey to be +EV?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $49.25
      CO:
      $25.00
      BU(Hero):
      $33.75
      SB:
      $13.85
      BB:
      $13.75
      UTG2:
      $27.25
      MP1:
      $46.85
      MP2:
      $44.40


      Preflop: Hero is BU with K, A.
      UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, 2 folds, MP1 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($6.85) K, 4, 5 (2 players)
      MP1 bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00.

      Turn: ($30.85) J (2 players)
      MP1 bets $31.60(All-In), Hero calls $18.50(All-In).

      River: ($80.95) K (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $62.45.
      Results follow:

      MP1 shows two pairs, kings and jacks(A J).
      Hero shows three of a kind, kings(K A).

      Hero wins with three of a kind, kings(K A).

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $49.25
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO(Hero):
      $64.85
      BU:
      $13.75
      SB:
      $13.50
      BB:
      $27.25
      UTG2:
      $13.10
      MP1:
      $44.40


      Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
      UTG2 raises to $13.10(All-In), 3 folds, Hero raises to $64.85(All-In), 3 folds.

      Flop: ($78.3) 4, 3, J (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Turn: ($78.3) 4 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($78.3) 2 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $13.45.
      Results follow:

      UTG2 shows two pairs, tens and fours(T T).
      Hero shows a pair of fours(K A).

      UTG2 wins with two pairs, tens and fours(T T).
  • 4 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      In second hand, just have to hope BB doesn't wake up with AA... But I guess that's what you mean by saying you were pot comitted?

      So if you just call utg's push and BB came over the top you'd have to call anyway, I guess?

      Tilting donkeys make me tilt too. I just try to be patient and wait for hands like the first one....
    • awishformore
      awishformore
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2007 Posts: 922
      Don't post results.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      both your hands is fine, although I´d likely shove on the flop myself, since even if he folds there draw you´re happy with result
      2nd hand: you´re way ahead of his shoving range pf. it is easy shove
    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      I chose to flatcall on the flop, since villain is likely to continue aggression on later rounds, and I don't want to take the action away from him, also in position I can pick up the betting if he fails to bet turn.

      A shove is nice too, as this player overplayed every flushdraw he flopped. I'm way ahead, so might as well get the chips in the middle. However, as happy as I'd be with taking the pot down on the flop, could I not get more value in the long run if I let the villain donk his chips off to me by feigning weakness? Also, even if Villain stops betting, I can use my position on later rounds to potentially extract more value and control the action?