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[NL20-NL50] Nl25 Sh 33

    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,029
      Hand converted with online hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 3, 3.
      MP3 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, CO raises to $7.00, Hero calls $4.50.

      Flop: ($14.35) 4, 3, T (2 players)
      CO bets $14.35, Hero raises to $20.03(All-In), CO calls $5.68.

      Turn: ($54.41) 7 (0 players)
      CO gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($54.41) 6 (0 players)
      CO gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $48.73.
      Results follow:

      Villain is 28/27 after 72 hands. AF 2.7; Cbet flop 100% (6). Seems kind of LAG/Taggish. Had just seen him raise A5s from utg so felt a 3bet was fine. After he 4bets I think I am probably crushed by the range of hands he does this with, but didn't just want to give up the hand preflop. Instinct tells me we can't play low pps this way as a general rule?

      Well, on the flop I just get lucky and it's pretty standard, I think.
      One thing though: I might have considered calling this flop even without hitting my set. I can't see why he would bet potsize with an overpair here as such a bet doesn't get value. Few hands earlier, villain had flopped a flush and bet 2/3 pot. This bet looks more like he's trying to buy the pot, not having hit. I can't see any value in AA or KK or QQ playing this way as there is no need to protect. What say you?
  • 2 replies
    • maya1984
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Hi Tim,

      Regarding your preflop play Mathematically you can't call for set-value here.

      your odds for hitting a set are 7.5:1. You pot odds are 9.85:4.5. You will need to get x$ from him when you hit your set to make it the call EV+.

      Pot = 9,85$
      you have to call = 4,5$
      Your odds for hitting a set = 7.5:1

      (9.85+x)/4.5 = 7.5 -> x= 23.9$

      You have 20$ left. x > 20 -> A call will be EV-.

      Generally calling 4bets for set value 100BB deep is EV-.

      Postflop the hand is played for itself, you hit your set, he potted it and is committed. easy shove.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you don´t have to 3-bet every single time pp ip especially when player can 4-bet you, since then you either have to fold or shove pf, since you can´t call for set value and if you call, then you likely have to get all-in anyway on that kind of low board