KK preflop all in

    • saneknl
      saneknl
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      Joined: 02.06.2009 Posts: 16
      I am playing 0.25NL 6max and full ring.
      I loose a lot KK all in on preflop against AA.
      Our stakes are 60BB each.

      Important note:
      It's beginning of session and I don't have any information about players yet.

      From EP the scenario usually is:
      I raise 75c, He reraise 2$. I reraise to 6$
      He reraise or all in.
      Should I fold here?

      From LP the scenario usually is:
      He raise 75c, I reraise 2$, he reraise to 6$, I raise All in.
      And loose to AA :(

      How should I play in EP and LP?
      Should I fold KK to big reraise on preflop?

      My preflop stat All in preflop with KK (total 6 times):
      5 times Called by AA
      1 times Called by AK
      0 times Called by KK?!
  • 8 replies
    • Sasa1234
      Sasa1234
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      Never fold KK with 100 BB or less
    • andyb43
      andyb43
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      Just unlucky.......... :f_biggrin:
    • kosmonaut111
      kosmonaut111
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      Well there are spots, where you feel like you are against AA. I had a situation: aggro donk limps from EP, I raise normally with KK, he insta reraises me potsize. This line like cryes: I have AA. I shoved there ofcourse.
      But the book tells that you never fold KK preflop (well when you are in late position and like 3 players before have shown enourmous amount of aggression (TAGs), you can think that one of them has AA, but still its close.
      You looked, that how much you got called by AA, look now how much you are AI with AA vs KK. and how much you are AI with KK vs QQ, JJ or some random trash. You should then see that preflop AI with KK is still profitable.

      Why havent get called by KK: there is only one hand combination of KKs left :D
    • nafar84
      nafar84
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      Originally posted by kosmonaut111
      he insta reraises me potsize. This line like cryes: I have AA.
      Yeah but then I've realized that many players (even donks) understand that this line looks very strong and they try to represent AA this way, especially if you've been isolating them a lot and they're sick of it.
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Originally posted by Sasa1234
      Never fold KK with 100 BB or less
      Agree. That you run into AA so often is just bad luck. In the long run you will see how profitable it is. I have also seen people limp/raising with JJ, QQ, AK because they think they would have the nuts. Same counts for the scenario raise/3bet/4bet...

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • AlexMala88
      AlexMala88
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      Joined: 11.11.2009 Posts: 6
      Never fold KK from any position under any circumstance (unless you are on the bubble at the WSOP, lol) As a wise man once said, even if you run into AA, you still have a 20% chance of winning.....lol.
    • Ishindar
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      u will probably never run into AA again with KK so enjoy :D
    • AlCaTrAzzALZ
      AlCaTrAzzALZ
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      Joined: 06.05.2008 Posts: 726
      if you feel bad about running KK into AA, then spare a thought for the ppl who run AA into KK several times and flop a K ;)