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[NL20-NL50] AA nl25 sh

    • Janosikgdy
      Janosikgdy
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      Joined: 06.05.2007 Posts: 4,480
      Party Poker $25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 328642
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      BB: $36.14
      CO: $45.16
      Hero (BTN): $24.50
      SB: $7.53

      Pre Flop: ($0.37) Hero is BTN with A :club: A :heart:
      CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.12, SB raises to $1.99, BB calls $1.74, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.36, SB calls $4.37, BB calls $4.37

      Flop: ($19.33) 7 :diamond: 8 :heart: 5 :heart: (3 players)
      SB bets $1.17 all in, BB calls $1.17, Hero raises to $18.14 all in, BB calls $16.97

      Turn: ($56.78) 6 :club: (3 players - 2 are all in)

      River: ($56.78) T :spade: (3 players - 2 are all in)

      SB 33/14
      BB 28/12/1.5/666 hands 3bet2 wts28

      Is saize of my 4bet ok?
  • 5 replies
    • AninIII
      AninIII
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      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      Hi,

      I think your 4-bet size is too low, because SB AND BB already showed
      interest in seeing the flop.
      I'd bet SB all-in, ~7.75-8.25$.

      As played i guess your shove on flop is fine due to drawheavy board,
      but I guess BB had a set unfortunately.

      Let's see what the judges think.

      Best regards,
      Anin
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Hi,

      I'd raise it to 7$ pf and shove flop too. The short SB in not a factor and BB's range is more then 55-77.
      Hero is going to be committed to the pot any way, he can't just call the small bet so shove is it's only option on this drawy flop in a 4bet pot.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by maya1984
      Hi,

      I'd raise it to 7$ pf and shove flop too. The short SB in not a factor and BB's range is more then 55-77.
      Hero is going to be committed to the pot any way, he can't just call the small bet so shove is it's only option on this drawy flop in a 4bet pot.
      +1
      I´d also get all-in on that board, since it is hard to flop sets in 4-bet pots :)
    • Janosikgdy
      Janosikgdy
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      Joined: 06.05.2007 Posts: 4,480
      is my 4bet too low because I get less value or because I give BB too good odds to call with his pp?

      here its a similar hand

      CO is a big fish and BB is a TAG I 4bet small to suck fish in, is it ok?

      Party Poker $25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 332612
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      SB: $9.16
      BB: $47.21
      CO: $76.63
      Hero (BTN): $24.88

      Pre Flop: ($0.37) Hero is BTN with A :spade: A :heart:
      CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.12, 1 fold, BB calls $0.87, CO raises to $3.24, Hero raises to $7.86, 1 fold, CO calls $4.62

      Flop: ($16.96) 5 :club: J :heart: 3 :club: (2 players)
      CO bets $68.77 all in, Hero calls $17.02 all in

      Turn: ($51.00) 4 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

      River: ($51.00) K :heart: (2 players - 2 are all in)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think standard 4-bet size is around 2,5x his 3-bet size. So at the last hand I´d prefer 8$ 3-bet, although 7,86 is also fine.
      They don´t have always sets and then hit it or suited connectors and then outdraw you. You also want to give impression to AK/QQ/JJ that you´re going to fold to shove and even if the call I doubt any overpair would fold on 224 board