DoN books

    • IKSecret
      IKSecret
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      Joined: 23.02.2009 Posts: 194
      Hi!
      Is there a good strategy book with a Double or Nothing SnG strategy in it ?

      I have found two e-books on internet
      1) Double or Nothing Sit & Go Strategy to Crush the Competition
      2) some DoN site is offering DoN book, but I realy don`t know if it is real.

      Maybe someone have read any of these, wondering is it worth to buy ?
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    • elhh82
      elhh82
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      you need a book for DoN? don't you just have to play super super tight?
    • Vargan
      Vargan
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      I dont think there is enough information to produce a book about the subject.

      I know atleast one of the e-books are a joke. Features results from HUSNGs and not DoNs.

      Its just not that deep. =)

      Just learn when to steal, when to fold, when to fold, when to fold, when to fold, when to fold, when to fold, when to fold, when to fold (even KK) find your right ammout of tables to play and go!
    • harleytopper
      harleytopper
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      Golden rules of DONs:

      1) Less all-ins more chance to get to the money:
      1 coinflip -- 50% chance to loose
      2 coinflips -- 75% chance to loose
      3 coinflips -- 88% chance to loose
      ......

      2) If you double-up, just steal blinds every round or two to maintain stack and wait for end.

      3) Steal blinds before blinds go up and you haven't FE.

      4) Don't raise others, when shortie goes all-in, just call and check with other players in pot to the river.

      + you need basic understanding of poker.

      If you understand russian, watch silver and gold DONs videos, they are more informative then articles in strategy section.
    • IKSecret
      IKSecret
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      Joined: 23.02.2009 Posts: 194
      yes, all that I know, I`m interesting in different hard decision situations and maybe some hand ranges when to push against different kind of players when bilnds are big.
      Ty for info about russian video, didn`t knew about it. :)
    • Vargan
      Vargan
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      Originally posted by harleytopper
      Golden rules of DONs:

      1) Less all-ins more chance to get to the money:
      1 coinflip -- 50% chance to loose
      2 coinflips -- 75% chance to loose
      3 coinflips -- 88% chance to loose
      ......
      Can you prove this to me please?

      This is flawed poker logic.

      A coinflip is always around the 50/50 area in poker. 2 coinflips is not 75% chance to loose, its two flips with a 50% chance to loose (assuming equal stacks!)
    • shivas80
      shivas80
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      Joined: 24.12.2008 Posts: 573
      Originally posted by Vargan
      Originally posted by harleytopper
      Golden rules of DONs:

      1) Less all-ins more chance to get to the money:
      1 coinflip -- 50% chance to loose
      2 coinflips -- 75% chance to loose
      3 coinflips -- 88% chance to loose
      ......
      Can you prove this to me please?

      This is flawed poker logic.

      A coinflip is always around the 50/50 area in poker. 2 coinflips is not 75% chance to loose, its two flips with a 50% chance to loose (assuming equal stacks!)
      It's not...

      Yes, hands in poker are independent events... tho one DoN is a one event.

      If you risk your chips in 50/50 situation more than once your whole event (meaning DoN SNG) survivability is: ((50/50)/50)/50 with each allin.

      basicly each time you risk allin, you giving your opponent 50% chance to knock you out... and everytime you give him a chance again... its more likely he will hit it :D

      It's like to say... to win 19 times DoNs in a row is easy... coz its 50/50 chance (50% doubles up)... it's in same difficulty level as winning 19 coinflips in a row :D
    • harleytopper
      harleytopper
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      Joined: 28.09.2007 Posts: 680
      Originally posted by Vargan
      Originally posted by harleytopper
      Golden rules of DONs:

      1) Less all-ins more chance to get to the money:
      1 coinflip -- 50% chance to loose
      2 coinflips -- 75% chance to loose
      3 coinflips -- 88% chance to loose
      ......
      Can you prove this to me please?

      This is flawed poker logic.

      A coinflip is always around the 50/50 area in poker. 2 coinflips is not 75% chance to loose, its two flips with a 50% chance to loose (assuming equal stacks!)
      Yes every time you get around 50/50 chance to win. But your goal is to survive DONs no to get biggest stack. So your main goal is to go all-in 0 or max 1 time per game, what will give you 50%+ chance to get ITM.

      Simple example:
      You throw coin one time in the air -- you get 50/50 chance to get one site up.
      You throw coin two times in the air -- you every time get 50/50 chance to get one side up NOT two times in the row same side up.

      0.5*0.5=0.25 is the real chance to get one site up.

      More times you throw more unlikely coin will land on same side everytime.

      BTW Coinflips (chances will not be 50/50 everytime) was only exapmle to show the point about first statement.
    • hoffee
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      Following all these mathematics does not work, if you want to be a really sucsessfull DoN player. DoN has got alot of regulars, who everyone plays the same way. Supernit. Epeccially from $20-$100 ones. Here DoN is about taking advantage of the players at your table. Try to earn as much as possible by stealing, so that you won't have to go all in. What hands you have does not care. Try to prove me wrong.
    • harleytopper
      harleytopper
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      There is nothing to proove, as you and everybody else sad:
      Stealing pots > going all in.
    • Vargan
      Vargan
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      Joined: 07.03.2008 Posts: 565
      Originally posted by hoffee
      Try to prove me wrong.
      Here is to proving hoffee right: My graph on the $20 DoNs.



      Not a big sample,