[NL20-NL50] 50NL SH 77 2nd barrel or give up?

    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      saw flop

      Gerv (UTG) ($52.75)
      MP ($40.40)


      Button ($44.50)
      SB ($64.40)
      BB ($23.25)

      Preflop: Gerv is UTG with 7, 7
      Gerv bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, 3 folds

      Flop: ($4.25) 8, 4, J (2 players)
      Gerv bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50

      Turn: ($9.25) T (2 players)
      Gerv bets $6, MP calls $6

      River: ($21.25) J (2 players)
      Gerv checks, MP checks


      Shall I just c/f Turn ? If he checks back and bricks off what to do? Based on 38% WTSD I would c/f
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      c/f or c/c is imo better than betting turn again, since he´d won´t fold better hands than yours to your turn bet.
    • ImAnAcehole9
      ImAnAcehole9
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      Joined: 16.10.2009 Posts: 128
      He was flushing, I don't see anything wrong with the play being HU
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      c/f or c/c is imo better than betting turn again, since he´d won´t fold better hands than yours to your turn bet.
      So you c/c$6 Turn, what do you do on the river ( assuming Turn card is T) if:
      1* a falls off
      2* River bricks with 2
      3* an A or K falls

      Thanks
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
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      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      why u check that river?????
      would u call if he bets 17$ ???

      i dont think u can call there on river and not be a hero

      i want to bet that turn if he is flushing he wont get there free and he cant bet bluf me on turn with flush darw, and if 9 hit i'll have an idiotic str8 :D

      but i cant see no sense in cheking river thats like opening door for him and giving him chance to bluf me out of that pot, and u can make him fold 9T,98,99, so i'll bet 12$-15$ on river

      1,3 is check/fold for me only card that i'll bet river is this J :club: i wont bet if 7 hits river
      #2 is tough u cant if u check call without beeng a hero but u cant make better hand fold if u bet too couse that 2 :heart:( brick) doesnt change nothing in his perspective too if he had a made hand
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      c/f or c/c is imo better than betting turn again, since he´d won´t fold better hands than yours to your turn bet.
      So you c/c$6 Turn, what do you do on the river ( assuming Turn card is T) if:
      1* a falls off
      2* River bricks with 2
      3* an A or K falls

      Thanks
      1) fold- don´t thin he is bluffing there too many times with worse hands
      2) close to calling or folding. Not really sure if I´d always c/c turn, but if I do I have to some times c/c river, since he´d valuebet turn most of the times only strong Jx or better hands
      3) Basically the same situation than 2h, but at that case that player would now not valuebet QJ on 84JTA board. But since K or A would made him more hands that beat us, then c/f seems a little better option than c/c
      But it is only when I´d c/c turn, which I might often c/f, since board is now too drawy and I don´t expect to be ahead too many times when he calls on the flop.