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[NL20-NL50] Another NL10/25 BSS deep QQ set vs draw heavy board

    • cwpeter89
      cwpeter89
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.03.2009 Posts: 38
      Villain is super loose 60/40/50 stats over 50 hands

      What's the best play here? Shove flop or check/call?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $24.40
      SB:
      $24.75
      BB:
      $25.45
      UTG1:
      $50.50
      UTG2:
      $25.15
      MP1:
      $19.75
      MP2:
      $25.35
      MP3:
      $25.95
      CO(Hero):
      $71.85


      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
      UTG1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, UTG1 calls $1.25, MP3 calls $1.25.

      Flop: ($4.85) J, Q, 9 (3 players)
      UTG1 bets $2.25, MP3 folds, Hero???
  • 5 replies
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      reraise to $10-$12

      you said it, it is draw heavy and he will call your raise with HUGE range.
    • cwpeter89
      cwpeter89
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.03.2009 Posts: 38
      Here's the actual hand..

      I shoved after his raise on the flop thinking that he's probably either got TT+ or AJ/AQ and hit TPTK or maybe even an AK for gutshot, and with his stats it's almost free money in the pot and I wouldn't be surprised if he called, which he does

      surprise surprise!!

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $24.40
      SB:
      $24.75
      BB:
      $25.45
      UTG1:
      $50.50
      UTG2:
      $25.15
      MP1:
      $19.75
      MP2:
      $25.35
      MP3:
      $25.95
      CO(Hero):
      $71.85


      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
      UTG1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, UTG1 calls $1.25, MP3 calls $1.25.

      Flop: ($4.85) J, Q, 9 (3 players)
      UTG1 bets $2.25, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $70.35(All-In), UTG1 calls $46.75(All-In).

      Turn: ($124.2) 8 (0 players)
      UTG1 gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($124.2) 2 (0 players)
      UTG1 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $77.45.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows three of a kind, queens(Q Q).
      UTG1 shows a straight, queen high(J T).

      UTG1 wins with a straight, queen high(J T).
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      that reraise was good but if you made it 10-12 you could reassess the turn card and save yourself a ton of money.

      then again i like it because they money went in when you were ahead.

      i am a little concerned that you have silver status and play NL25BSS, are you following BRM?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      shoving seems kind of bad, since ususally I don´t expect him to call with pair+oesd, but if player is bad and call shove with these hands, then shove is fine.
      I´d also prefer raising to 12$ giving villain chance to call or shove with worse hands
    • cwpeter89
      cwpeter89
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.03.2009 Posts: 38
      Originally posted by excelgeo
      that reraise was good but if you made it 10-12 you could reassess the turn card and save yourself a ton of money.

      then again i like it because they money went in when you were ahead.

      i am a little concerned that you have silver status and play NL25BSS, are you following BRM?
      yeah im definately following brm

      i took a longggg break from poker and deposited for a fresh start