[NL2-NL10] AA vs double flush draw...

    • staicu74
      staicu74
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      Joined: 01.07.2009 Posts: 57
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $10.00
      MP3:
      $21.01
      CO:
      $14.15
      BU:
      $15.31
      SB(Hero):
      $11.65
      BB:
      $13.76


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
      3 folds, BU raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.00, BB folds, BU calls $0.70.

      Flop: ($2.1) J, Q, 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.40, BU calls $1.40.

      Turn: ($4.9) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BU raises to $12.91(All-In), Hero ???.

      Do you call or fold here?
  • 8 replies
    • Monkeye
      Monkeye
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      Joined: 14.07.2009 Posts: 1,201
      without reads it better to fold because I don't think he go all in with Jx or something the only thing what you beat is KK maybe. Also is it possible that he have a flushdraw or a Queen.
    • staicu74
      staicu74
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      Joined: 01.07.2009 Posts: 57
      And I am WAY ahead a flush draw...
    • Monkeye
      Monkeye
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      Joined: 14.07.2009 Posts: 1,201
      Oops, you are right.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      Tough one, he can represent AQ/KQ pretty well and most players would indeed jam trips in that spot to prevent any of the flushdraws from getting there.

      However since most of your stack already went in and you're getting almost 3:1 on a call, you likely have to call it off on the offchance he's ever doing that with a draw, which is reasonable for him to have there since BU defending range to a 3bet is usually wider. NH i guess.


      Hope it helps.
    • staicu74
      staicu74
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      Joined: 01.07.2009 Posts: 57
      I called and he had K9cc and 7c hit the river, but that's not THAT important in our discussion.

      Do you think that shoving the turn instead of a normal bet is a profitable play for me?
    • herekPL
      herekPL
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      Joined: 13.05.2007 Posts: 6,181
      No - what kind of worst hands you expect to call? You'll only get called by hands that beats you.
    • staicu74
      staicu74
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      Joined: 01.07.2009 Posts: 57
      true. but it's not profitable for the flush draws to call
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      If you think that he'll jam draws over a normal turn bet and use that to justify calling it off as played, then it's all the more reason not to push those draws out of pot by shoving the turn yourself, since you'll just end up 2 outing at best against Qx when you get called. A line that lets you get money out of worse hands is better.


      Hope it helps.