[NL2-NL10] Nl25 KK

    • Cloudas
      Cloudas
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.08.2009 Posts: 17
      First hand im posting, for some reason it converted the final pot being 7,73$ when its 10,11$, weird bug?.
      So: Villain was 57/14 over a very small sample, so no actual stats to rely on.

      What caught my attention was that after making the cbet, my remaining stack was 2,4$ when the pot had already grown to 5,35$. I suppose i continued to push all in due to the fact people call on flush draws straight draws, sometimes even with middle pairs, and given the massive odds, i pushed that turn, even though the board was beating me with any ace, pocket tens, jacks, and KQ.

      Anyways, any tip on the hand itself and the fact of massive odds given when the cbet is called, which happens quite often i suppose would be great help.
      (The raise preflop wasnt 5 bb because i didnt notice the dead money i think)

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $5.00
      SB:
      $3.05
      BB:
      $32.17
      UTG2(Hero):
      $4.88
      MP1:
      $5.30
      MP2:
      $6.11
      MP3:
      $13.41
      CO:
      $8.00


      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with K, K.
      CO posts deadblind, Hero raises to $1.00, 6 folds, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($2.35) A, T, J (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($5.35) 9 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero raises to $2.38(All-In), BB calls $2.38.

      River: ($10.11) 2 (0 players)
      BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $7.73.
  • 6 replies
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Silver
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      you can give it up or shove.

      either way it is ok i think as people do call the flop with something like JK indeed

      although you would not have posted if he didnt have AJ would you
    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      Would probably also shove here, we still have outs with the Q and K on the river.

      Another reason to just go broke here is to get some reads from the player if he is unknown.
    • Cloudas
      Cloudas
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.08.2009 Posts: 17
      cheers for the replys.
      And excelgeo, not a tough hand, just that situations like these with such odds will happen more than often as raising and cbeting is done in most hands, so that was my interest as letting hands go with such a pot/remaining stack ratio is quite difficult i believe:|
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey Cloudas,

      welcome to the SSS forum!

      Considering villain is mostly unknown NL25 player, I'd presume he is loose passive and Ax is the nuts. He can sometimes call you with worse on the flop, but if you shove turn I don't think he will continue without FD or TP+ and against that you lack equity and even when we add KJ and QJ to his range you still lack it...

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 22,008% 21,657% 0,701% 77,642% KK
      Player 2: 77,992% 77,642% 0,701% 21,657% AA, A2s+, KJs, QJs, Ts9s, 9s8s, 8s7s, 7s6s, 6s5s, A2o+, KJo, QJo

      ...you need 25.6% breakeven equity on the turn.

      So, I check back turn and safely fold if he decides to bet river. I don't think NL25 players are capable of floating.

      Regards,
      burek2000
    • tigerK
      tigerK
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.10.2008 Posts: 4,566
      floating IP is usual stuff in low limits, don't misunderstand the game.

      You're in NL25. You don't need to do always the same not to be readable later on.

      Here I check/behind flop. The bet is useless here.
      If he checks turn again, I start value betting here cause it's unlikely he has an ace.
      If he bets turn I cold call and check/fold river.
    • Cloudas
      Cloudas
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.08.2009 Posts: 17
      Thanks burek for the equity percentages and the welcome.
      Overlooked the fact i wasted my position in this hand completely, thanks for that guys.