Strategies

    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      You say that if someone plays according to your strategies, then he/she will profit. I play strictly according to the handcharts, how, when, how much and so on to bet and all the stuff around. I just do follow your rules totally with no exceptions, but the only result is, that I only lose my money. During 1 month I managed to short my bankroll about 50%. I dont know whats the reason, if your strategies are wrong and you just get money from the poker rooms you have deal with or is that my bad luck, I dont really know. If you answer please dont write its my fault or stuff like this because it really isnt.
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    • jonnyquest
      jonnyquest
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      Joined: 21.09.2009 Posts: 285
      Hi

      If you're playing SSS then just follow the strategy and proper BRM and your luck will turn around. Just be patient and keep grinding.

      Good Luck
    • GunFlavoured
      GunFlavoured
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      Joined: 19.10.2008 Posts: 626
      What type of game are you playing? How many hands / SnGs have you played? The strategies will definitely work on the lower limits. Make sure you post hands in the evaluation section to make sure you aren't making simple mistakes.
    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      I play SSS and SNG, low limits. I also tried BSS but it didnt turn out as the best choice so I left it. I dont know how the lames there can have such luck, its horrible. Very many my good hands are beat by some suckout or badbeat, I am going crazy about it :D I have never been lucky in games and poker confirms it but I will try to keep and play till my bankroll is gone :D
    • Skeat
      Skeat
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      Joined: 18.08.2009 Posts: 493
      Don't know if it is general, but for me and some other members, strictly following the SSS strategy didn't work out. I changed to BSS and that is running quite good. I think SSS basic strategy is just so new ppl don't loose all their money right away. Of course SSS can be profitable, but I think for that some adjustments are required on the strategy, depending on your opponents, room, table image, etc...
    • THeGaME23
      THeGaME23
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      Joined: 12.10.2009 Posts: 398
      Originally posted by Skeat
      Don't know if it is general, but for me and some other members, strictly following the SSS strategy didn't work out. I changed to BSS and that is running quite good. I think SSS basic strategy is just so new ppl don't loose all their money right away. Of course SSS can be profitable, but I think for that some adjustments are required on the strategy, depending on your opponents, room, table image, etc...
      I've been playing live/ online poker for 8 years but im pretty new to this site and I can say that SSS is a great strategy and it does work. What it does is it takes newer players and lets them play mistake free poker (which does work well) and then as they play more they get access to more articles and videos they are able to learn how to play more advanced and make more profit. But stick to the basic charts if until you have access to the articles and videos because or else you wont know how to do it and you will fail.
    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      For example a few minutes ago I had KK and someone went all in, it is told that you should never fold kings preflop so I went all in as well and what do you think he had? Rockets. So I suckedout and this is my daily experience not some exception. And if he had for example A 10 or stuff which is more probable on low limits I would suckout on the Ace that comes right on the flop as always. I just cant win I dont know why the God doesnt like me ?(
    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      Now I played 4 SNGs and I lost all of them and do you know why? Because when I had KK I faced AA, when I had AK I faced QQ and didnt get A or K and stuff like this, screw online poker, it is manipulated. When I come to a new poker room I win/lose/win/lose and I have still the same amount of money and after about 3 weeks I start to lose everything I do. Fuck off this is just for people with luck, nothing else omg. :baby: :baby:
    • THeGaME23
      THeGaME23
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      Joined: 12.10.2009 Posts: 398
      Yeah with that attitude you'll never make it anywhere with poker so I would say just stop trying or get a new attitude quick.
    • lennonac
      lennonac
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      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 1,421
      This is a common post from newbies.
      You lose because you are making mistakes, you dont know it but you are. varience plays a big factor in poker but going out in 4 sit n go's is a drop in the ocean. I have gone 32 sit n go's without a cash and I am a winning sit n go player
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      Hey Dandiiik,

      If your using the strategies given here at this site it seems like your having a bit of bad luck :(
      PokerStrategy.com is a proven site with a huge amount of successful players.

      Just remember to keep posting hands in the SSS hand evaluation thread to make sure you are making the right decisions at the right time.
      There is also a SNG hand evaluation thread where you can see if your playing correctly.
      Both these threads are evaluated by proven winners in these fields.

      Also, you can never read/watch and re-read/watch the strategy articles and strategy videos to much.

      If you have any query's about anything, don't be afraid to ask.
      There are a lot of helpful/friendly players that are happy to help you with your game.

      I hope things turn around for you and goodluck. :s_cool:

      Regards,

      Kyle.
    • jonnyquest
      jonnyquest
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      Joined: 21.09.2009 Posts: 285
      I thought that basic SSS wouldn't work. I made lots of mistakes trying to play like I do in live poker. I think if you review your play you'll find lots of leaks. I thought I was losing because of bad beats too. I went through my hands and was shocked at what I saw. The biggest thing to remember is that microstakes are loose and even crazy. Just get your money in good with good cards and don't do anything fancy. Sophisticated plays are useless against begginers at NL10. The first step I took in becoming a winning player was to stop lying to myself. Badbeats hurt but realisticly wasn't where I was losing my money.

      Good luck
    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      I could shoot you some video so you believed me that it is not about my basic mistakes. But dont you think that it would be better for me to send there more money so I didnt have to be so much afraid of playing aggressively because I will always have money in my bankroll? I hope things will change but I dont want to lose all my money in poker before it :P
    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      Ok if you still dont believe me there is another one hand several minutes ago: I played AK of clubs at small blind, there was a raise and two calls. I was thinking a bit and then I went all in for 2 dollars. Two opponents folded and one called and showed 85 of clubs. And what happend? He hit two pairs on the flop so dont tell me I lose because of my mistakes omg.
    • thebigheizung85
      thebigheizung85
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      Joined: 12.08.2006 Posts: 195
      if you love the game and want to succeed you just have to deal with badbeats, painful as they are... as you are very new and probably don't playing high volumes a badbeat or two makes a session very painful for you... also you for sure make mistakes, everybody does them... yesterday i saw the video of phil ivey's mistake at the WSOP... that man is a god and does not see that he has a flush!!

      so this is the first attitude you might need to change... you might play pretty solid according to the SSS rules, but the rules you can read so far are not the entire truth, with higher status you see more and more and in x-thousand hands you might even laugh about your own post...

      secondly your volume is probably really low (which is good, because you need to learn the game and not do automated decisions), but then you feel bad beats much more as it takes maybe some days to recover from them... if you played more hands, this would be the same day and you would feel: oh wow, that session was rough (a lot of up's and downs) but i managed to make a significant profit

      it is a lot of psychology on your own terms, try to focus on the game, learn it and you will do fine

      good luck with it

      ps: i completely understand the attitude of: i now know these strategies, there can't be much more to it, can it? until you read about the next great concept and then the next...

      edit: we believe you... you run bad, but if you don't get the concept of variance (and statistics in general) i can't help you... of course you make a huge profit if you put in your money as an 80% favourite all the time... and in the long run you will do great with it... but you can also have four, five or even ten times in a row losing in such spots... that is hard to deal with, when your bankroll is so limited, but jeah that's still part of the plan
    • GunFlavoured
      GunFlavoured
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      Joined: 19.10.2008 Posts: 626
      Originally posted by Dandiiik
      Ok if you still dont believe me there is another one hand several minutes ago: I played AK of clubs at small blind, there was a raise and two calls. I was thinking a bit and then I went all in for 2 dollars. Two opponents folded and one called and showed 85 of clubs. And what happend? He hit two pairs on the flop so dont tell me I lose because of my mistakes omg.
      Ok you've had a few suckouts, if you are actually playing good poker you will win in the long term. No point posting that you don't make mistakes and it must be the poker site. How are you planning to ever improve if you can't critically analyse your own game.
    • Dandiiik
      Dandiiik
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      Joined: 19.07.2009 Posts: 1,736
      At least I see that I am not the only one who has problems with pokerstars. Look at this videos and other 3 related shot in a very short time, just suckouts and badbeats :P , the same as me I dont have to shoot you a vid I would shoot you the same as you can see here :)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5tcjUgxj5U&feature=related
    • thebigheizung85
      thebigheizung85
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      Joined: 12.08.2006 Posts: 195
      if you start with: that site is rigged... riverstars and all this shit.. then you are wrong here... i have played on 9 different sites so far and i heard them all whining about the site... the only thing that is left that the whole industry is rigged :-D

      but hey, let's just think about it... they make a DECENT profit by providing fair games... and people think they are betraying their players for some extra money... the possibility of these secrets coming out and the resulting drawback, should prevent the casinos from doing that (i obviously have no proof of that, but then again so has nobody of the conspiracy theory-fraction... a row of hands is no proof, at max a proof of a lack of mathematical understanding)
    • ihufa
      ihufa
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      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      Originally posted by Dandiiik
      I play SSS and SNG, low limits. I also tried BSS but it didnt turn out as the best choice so I left it. I dont know how the lames there can have such luck, its horrible. Very many my good hands are beat by some suckout or badbeat, I am going crazy about it :D I have never been lucky in games and poker confirms it but I will try to keep and play till my bankroll is gone :D
      that's the spirit
    • lennonac
      lennonac
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      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 1,421
      Originally posted by Dandiiik
      Ok if you still dont believe me there is another one hand several minutes ago: I played AK of clubs at small blind, there was a raise and two calls. I was thinking a bit and then I went all in for 2 dollars. Two opponents folded and one called and showed 85 of clubs. And what happend? He hit two pairs on the flop so dont tell me I lose because of my mistakes omg.
      You will only win this around 63% of the time, just think about that. Some bad beats are not bad beats imo this is just part of the game.