[NL2-NL10] Nl 10 SSS Steal A8s from CO

    • torpeharcsa
      torpeharcsa
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $7.02
      Hero:
      $1.69

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:heart: , 8:heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($0.85) A:club: , 3:heart: , K:heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50.

      Turn: ($1.85) J:spade: (2 players)
      BB bets $1.90, Hero raises to $0.79 (All-In).

      River: ($4.54) 9:spade: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $4.54


      Q#1 Is it a steal or not?
      Q#2 Should have shoved it on flop?

      Thank you
  • 7 replies
    • dandycal
      dandycal
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      Whether it's a steal or not depends on the players behind you. A8s is a pretty strong hand, but against aggressive opponents or too loose opponents you might want to tighten up, also to avoid difficult post flop situations.

      NH, you can easily cbet/go broke with TP + FD here. And I think your cbet size is alright.
    • burek2000
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      Hey torpeharcsa,

      if you wish to steal and widen up your range I would advise you to decrease your openraise sizes in late position to 3BBs. However, I don't know about BU and SB, but BB has only 50% foldBB2steal, so I wouldn't try to steal too much from him, you want to steal from tight players who have 80+ foldBB2steal.

      As played, nice hand. TP + FD is a clear made hand.

      Regards,
      burek2000
    • gedwashere91
      gedwashere91
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      Just reading this, Burek2000, isnt 3bb openraise for steal is too small to create the needed FEq for a steal?
    • burek2000
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      Hey gedwashere91,

      Originally posted by gedwashere91
      Just reading this, Burek2000, isnt 3bb openraise for steal is too small to create the needed FEq for a steal?
      3 BB steals are just fine for micro and low limits. However, steals are only profitable against tight and aggressive players(those who will either reraise you or fold) .

      You don't want to steal against loose players, because calling stations will call you regardless how much you raise(3BB or 4BB) and you will not have the needed FE and should stick to value openraises.

      Later on middle and high limits players even steal with minraises and 2.5BB raises.

      Regards,
      burek2000
    • noelga
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      +1

      What about a S/C?
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Originally posted by noelga
      +1

      What about a S/C?
      I'm not sure I understand the question...

      If you mean what should you steal/call, then AQ+/99+ is very safe, while I was using AJ+/88+ as default when I played lower limits. But it also depends on how much you steal and whether opponents play back at you. E.g. if you steal too much opponents will start restealing much more against you as well, although many opponents won't adapt to your steals on low/micro limits.
    • xponentx
      xponentx
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      Originally posted by noelga
      +1

      What about a S/C?
      Maybe he means a Sklanki Chubukov Push?

      According to the adjusted S-C charts, from CO you'd only be pushing A9s+, so a push is marginal if not -EV in this spot.