[NL20-NL50] 55 nl50 sh

    • Janosikgdy
      Joined: 06.05.2007 Posts: 4,472
      Party Poker $50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 354714
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      BB: $49.67
      Hero (UTG): $49.50
      CO: $108.81
      BTN: $20.63
      SB: $30.36

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 5 :diamond: 5 :heart:
      Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

      Flop: ($6.00) 3 :club: 5 :club: K :heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets $4.75, CO raises to $12, BTN folds, Hero raises to $30.75, CO raises to $49.50, Hero calls $17 all in

      v: 38/25/2.5/351hands 3bet 10 wts 32 fcbet 42

      is it a mistake not to shove after his raise? I wanted him in the pot with whatever he has and 3bet shove looks so strong. Let's say I KNOW that he has fd and he will shove to my 2.5x raise but sometimes he might fold if 3bet shove - is it more profitable to 3bet 2.5 or shove in this case?
  • 2 replies
    • grummeler
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      i dont think it makes much difference here, but i think a 3bet (which is comitting you to the pot) looks even stronger then a shove !
      because this bet looks like you want him in the hand.
      a shove looks maybe more like a FD because you create more FE with the shove.
      if he is on a FD it makes no dofference, because you cant fold anymore.
      he MUST know that, so if he wants to play his FD he can shove with 0 FE or call and call the rest on the turn.
      so against a FD your bet makes no difference, you basically go all in with your bet, and your 3bet looks even stronger then a shove to me.
      so id simply shove it and see if he calls me.
      if he has a K or Twopair it really just looks stronger to him if you 3bet him small instead of moving all in.
      so shoving >>> the much stonger looking pot comitting 3bet
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      once you're not folding your hand and you hold made hand I always like re-raise small to 2.5-2.8x instead of shoving, since that would always give other person to shove and put their money all-in with worse hands