INSTA-TILTED - gutshotted twice! RANT!

    • cwpeter89
      cwpeter89
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      THE ONLY THING PS MICROSTAKES PLAYERS ARE GOOD AT ARE INDUCING LOLTILT ON HERO AND HIT'N'LOL RUNS FROM HERO

      These hands all happened within about 30 seconds of each other on the different tables I was playing at. BANG,BANG and BANG. Blew my tilt threshold through the f*ing ceiling!

      Now running 3.5bi below EV. Not running as bad some others here, but the hands that Villain calls with and suck out on insta-tilts me!

      No more poker today, it's time to rest my tilt-meter.

      Have to let out some stress so here it goes! ARHGGHGHGHGHGGH H#^%@!^$EHEUIRHGHHGHAWEQ@E!!

      I HOPE THESE FISH KEEP PLAY LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE, -EV FOR YOU AND +EV FOR ME BIATCHES! :s_cool:

      #1
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $5.25
      MP3:
      $12.45
      CO:
      $13.80
      BU:
      $10.00
      SB:
      $13.95
      BB(Hero):
      $12.60


      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
      MP2 calls $0.10, MP3 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BU folds, SB calls $0.35, Hero raises to $1.70, MP2 folds, CO calls $1.30, SB calls $1.30.

      Flop: ($5.2) 6, 7, T (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.70, CO raises to $12.10(All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $7.20.

      Turn: ($28.2) 8 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($28.2) Q (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $21.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of kings(K K).
      CO shows a straight, ten high(9 9).

      CO wins with a straight, ten high(9 9).

      #2
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $3.90
      BU:
      $10.05
      SB(Hero):
      $15.20
      BB:
      $15.85
      MP3:
      $14.00


      Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
      MP3 folds, CO calls $0.10, BU raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.70, BB folds, CO raises to $3.90, BU folds, Hero calls $2.20.

      Flop: ($8.4) 4, 4, K (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Turn: ($8.4) 8 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($8.4) 5 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $6.2.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, kings and fours(K A).
      CO shows a straight, eight high(6 7).

      CO wins with a straight, eight high(6 7).

      #3 Heres another insta-tilt hand played by Villain
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $2.45
      CO:
      $14.00
      BU:
      $1.85
      SB(Hero):
      $12.95
      BB:
      $7.25


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($0.8) Q, 8, 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $6.85, Hero calls $0.85.

      Turn: ($14.5) T (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($14.5) K (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $13.65.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of aces(A A).
      BB shows a straight, king high(J 5).

      BB wins with a straight, king high(J 5).
  • 16 replies
    • raun
      raun
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      here's a sympathy song for ya. we've all been there mate just hang in ;)

    • justaguy101
      justaguy101
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      INSTALOLTILT :f_biggrin:
    • JohnnyChrist
      JohnnyChrist
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      https://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3113/rick.png



      Thanks for the song. :)
    • EasterH
      EasterH
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      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 54
      Man im feelin with you too...
      similar happend to me 10 mins ago
      5 all ins 5 times favorite 5 times lost-
      in short:

      AA < 1010
      KK < AK
      AA < 99
      AQ < Q3
      AK < Q10
      AK < AK (flush)

      this is just high time bad luck- i cant believe it... when i played the AQ Hand i went AI preflop because i was already tilting a bit..and what happens?
      the smartest poker player ON EARTH calls a Q3 Hand preflop! one of those famous BLUFF CALLS i guess- and hits the 3... i just had to stop then

      Oh no there comes AA 1 Hand later (Thank you PokerGod!) now im gonne get some money bck from those fishes (or do they not call, as always when i got AA)
      No! Im in luck! 1 raise before me- i reraise 4 times his bet, he goes all in YESSS
      of course i call! villian shows 1010 YEESSS he has only 2 outs
      MY POT! o wait- the board says 10 4 6 J 3
      LOOOOOOL is the only thing you can say there- then i quit for today
      its just frstrating and ridiculous!

      the day finishes with 4 BIs down instead of normally well deserved + 6 BIs

      :-(
    • EasterH
      EasterH
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      This is so ridiculous...
      it just continues

      just lost again 4 3 outers in a row:

      AK < A8
      AK < A7
      AK < K6
      AA < QQ

      sometimes you can only cry..fucking noobs on partypoker on the weekend.
      normally you should win those in 4:1 that means
      after my first session i lost 5 3outer in a rown, that means:
      in 20 (!!!) occasions i loose 5- okay i lost the five in the first place, so
      (logically) if we go by probability i should win the next 15 of those 3outers
      BULLSHIT!!!
      what happens? i day later i again loose 4 3outers again (and win none btw)
      that means 4x 4:1... 16:4 i should win 16 loose 4
      addes to those 2 days ago 36 3 outers i win and 9 i loose
      the bad thing is- the time when i FINALLY win the better hand (which should be the next 36 times) never comes- it so frustrating..because allways you loose against complete morons that call preflop all in with K6 AND WIN
      one example:

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A :diamond: , K :diamond:
      UTG1 calls $0,10, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0,10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0,60, BB folds, UTG1 calls $0,50, MP3 calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($1,90) 3 :club: , 2 :heart: , K :club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0,70, UTG1 folds, MP3 raises to $1,40, Hero calls $0,45 (All-In).

      Turn: ($4,45) 6 :spade:
      River: ($4,45) J :spade: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $4,45

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of kings (A :diamond: K :diamond:)
      MP3 shows two pairs, kings and sixes (6 :diamond: K :diamond:)
    • lennonac
      lennonac
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      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 1,421
      past result have no effect on the future, so because you got sucked out on a few times does not mean you will win more often in the future.

      I know it sucks....it sucks hard
    • EasterH
      EasterH
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      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 54
      ...why?
      why does my downswing not end? today: 12 coiflips- lost 11
      13 times i have a situation like Villian has 3 outs
      me AA - villian AK
      i loose 10 T E N !!!!!
      then i reckon im strating to tilt, so i quit for the day
      okay 2 hours later i start again- first shodownhand:
      KK < A J (of course)

      2 Hands later:

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K :club: , A :club:
      3 folds, CO calls $0,10, BU folds, Hero raises to $0,50, BB folds, CO calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,10) 4 :club: , 3 :club: , T :heart: (2 players) (Kommentieren)
      Hero bets $0,80, CO calls $0,80.

      Turn: ($2,70) 7 :club: (2 players) (Kommentieren)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0,60, Hero calls $0,60 (All-In).

      River: ($3,90) 6 :club:( 2 players) (Kommentieren)


      Final Pot: $3,90

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a flush, king high (K :club: A :club:)
      CO shows a straight flush, sevens high (5 :club: Q :diamond:)
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      i mean ARE YOU KIDDING ME partypoker?
      this complete idiot makes a straight flush on the river?
      it seems like alway the MOST UNprobable thing to happen WILL happen!
      of course if i do a tilt move and go all in with J10 suit, villian has A2 and wins with Ace high-

      I know some people said that before- do not play poker on weekends, because it is too fishy, and variance goes up
      But this is just ridiculous... i calm down after a bad bad bad poker day, with good play on stealing, but always bad luck on show down...then i start again
      instant ASSRAPE by partypoker again
      i just made up a list, because i was so fuckin upset about the whole thing
      my bakroll goes down...minor mistakes...but BIG TIME bad luck
      ....
      if everything would run on probability, like i win 50% of coinflips and
      i win 4 out of 5 3outers i would be up:
      22 BI
      instead i am down
      9 BI
      instead of a clear UPSWING i am in a downswing because everything goes EXTREMLY against me... last 3 AA lost, last 5 KK lost etc.
      i m asking myself why this happens? that is not a normal downswing, not normal variance- i had them before- they end. and then you re so so so happy when u finally win the AAs again- after you lost them 8 times
      PLEASE GOD PLEASE
      make this next week better
      otherwise i think i am close to quitting... im sick of ruining my weekend by getting angry about noobs that get all my money with ridiculous calls,
      good play gets not awarded but seems to be punished instead.
      advertising should be? wanna have fun? wanna see pokerplayers go crazy? wanna bet crap and win? come to partypoker!!! we get you the straight flush if you call preflop All in with 3 10 offsuit! PROMISE!
      AAAAARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby:
      :f_mad: :f_mad: :f_mad: :f_mad: :f_mad:
    • DrFunk
      DrFunk
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      Joined: 07.01.2008 Posts: 348
      Yeah maaaan, i'm feeling you! I'm getting cracked too. God damn...

      Running 100$ under EV in two days. It sucks.
    • EasterH
      EasterH
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      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 54
      her i go again!
      5 BI down today
      QQ < A2
      1010 < Q2 (preflop all in LOOOOOOOOL)
      two pair on flop (all in) < three of a kind on river
      88 < A3 (preflop AI)
      AK suit < KQ offsuit

      and today we have a special feature!
      normally i can dodge a few off this bad beats by good stealplay, and minimize my losts, if its not too ridiculous like 4 days ago
      but not Today!
      every steal by me goes against rerasie all in, or someone who calls down AA
      or i get instant AI after flop that i cant call


      Preflop: Hero is CO with K :diamond: , J :heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BU raises to $1,85 (All-In), 3 folds.

      Final Pot: $2,40

      -----------------------------------


      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with A :diamond: , K :spade: (Kommentieren)
      UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, 6 folds, BB calls $0,30.

      Flop: ($0,85) J :spade: , 6 :club: , 7 :heart: (2 players) (Kommentieren)
      BB bets $0,50, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $1,35
      --------------------------------------------
      Preflop: Hero is CO with K :diamond: , J :club:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0,10, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0,50, BU folds, SB raises to $1,23 (All-In), 3 folds.

      Final Pot: $1,93

      --------------------------------------------

      it alsmost felt like the enemy KNOWS my moves... i play pretty thight aggresive normally- only go on showdown with clear favorite hands or 50/50 preflops...
      but strangely the whole table today seemed to know my hand...
      :f_cry:
      close to tears ;-) i finally get 2 times AA and one KK ... NO CALLERS!!! (of course)
      on the other side, i at least won the blinds and got not sucked out again by Q2 or 38 on the river...

      the other funny thing is 3 people before go AI i got KQsuit, just for the money i call... AK wins with K hit... of course on THIS occasion, when one TIME I am the underdog, the better starthand wins and not the 3 outs hand... :f_cry:

      okay i know this is pretty stupid to say, but still... only BAD LUCK and never a LUCKY pot get me so frustrated

      thats how I think right now... when does it stop? i mean i play NL 10 and only
      15 BI left, 2 more -5 BI sessions and i can quit... (and i will)

      normally you are pretty confident when preflop AI with QQ+ or AK but i am actually afraid of EVERY hand- and that cannot be, but on the other hand
      my own sttistics of showdowns in the last week, absolutely proove, that
      the mathemtical therory is WAAAY behind the actual reality in micro poker
      i was hoping to get one level up when i was up 45 BI but then the horrible back to realityy expierience :-( :-(

      its really no fun anymore

      i mean i am a HUGE card playing and poker fan- i love the game, even have :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club: tattoed on my shoulder ( ;-) no joke) but this is no fun anymore... hopefully tormorrow will be better..but then we have weekend again and mamas boy "yes A4 preflop all in call is a good move" plays on all tables and variance goes up again

      maybe i go to church on sunday will help?
      ( lol)
    • ImAnAcehole9
      ImAnAcehole9
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      Joined: 16.10.2009 Posts: 128
      It happens,

      I lost a pot of just under $600 last night on party KK vs AA (I had AA and all in pre flop). To losing $90, $80, $140 pots by villian hitting 2 outers etc. (seemed to always be the same guy). I let emotion get involved in that particular game against that particular player and changed my game by calling/raising position raises of his with low pockets hoping to eventually hit the board and get paid off. All up down around $700+, a bad day for me but a good lesson learnt. Tonight I will crush my enemy on SH NL200 by playing my usual game.

      You have certainly had a bad run, but playing micro limits does that. I found moving up limits was better for me as I found anything under NL100 lotto.

      It will eventually turn, just maintain/tighten up like a rock for a few hundred hands and play AA KK QQ AK AKs only for a while and push these hands hard. Your confidence will be restored soon enough and you'll return to your usual winning game.

      Just my opinion before some guy who thinks they're a poker god replies with ......totally wrong blah blah blah. IT IS MY OPINION TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!
    • Berkstajger
      Berkstajger
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      Originally posted by ImAnAcehole9
      Just my opinion before some guy who thinks they're a poker god replies with ......totally wrong blah blah blah. IT IS MY OPINION TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!
      Ok. I would just like to hear your opinion again when those few of premium hands you'll play will be cracked... :)
    • ImAnAcehole9
      ImAnAcehole9
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      Originally posted by Berkstajger
      Originally posted by ImAnAcehole9
      Just my opinion before some guy who thinks they're a poker god replies with ......totally wrong blah blah blah. IT IS MY OPINION TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!
      Ok. I would just like to hear your opinion again when those few of premium hands you'll play will be cracked... :)
      Simple move on and continue. Like my example I used in this post, I tightened right up and still got crushed. I knew I could do no better (like getting in all my stack preflop with AA vs KK) so I didn't doubt my ability just my luck or "variance" as people like to call it. What did this ultimately achieve? I had a bad day......no pissing and moaning, just had a bad day and I don't/won't doubt myself that I will make it up.

      Is that ok? or were you expecting something else because really what else can you do when you play all the right cards, bet the flop/turn etc but get run down by a 2 outer etc?
    • Berkstajger
      Berkstajger
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      I was commenting this:

      It will eventually turn, just maintain/tighten up like a rock for a few hundred hands and play AA KK QQ AK AKs only for a while and push these hands hard. Your confidence will be restored soon enough and you'll return to your usual winning game.


      It's fairly stupid to do so, imo. Firstly because you lose value on all the other hands and secondly you can still get beaten pretty badly playing only premium hands and that certainly can't be very uplifting for your confidence.

      From my point of view - play your game like you did before only try to improve it all the time. Lower the number of tables you play, read articles, watch videos, post hands on forum... if you find your leaks the variance will have to give up sooner or later. :)
    • raun
      raun
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      Originally posted by Berkstajger
      I was commenting this:

      It will eventually turn, just maintain/tighten up like a rock for a few hundred hands and play AA KK QQ AK AKs only for a while and push these hands hard. Your confidence will be restored soon enough and you'll return to your usual winning game.


      It's fairly stupid to do so, imo. Firstly because you lose value on all the other hands and secondly you can still get beaten pretty badly playing only premium hands and that certainly can't be very uplifting for your confidence.

      From my point of view - play your game like you did before only try to improve it all the time. Lower the number of tables you play, read articles, watch videos, post hands on forum... if you find your leaks the variance will have to give up sooner or later. :)
      +1
    • EasterH
      EasterH
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      Hi

      thanks for the good advice
      since my 50$ gift is running out and will be deleted on partypoker
      unless i get 110PP in 10 days i decided, to move up a limit,
      since the money will be gone anyway...
      whats the result- its much more comfortable here in Nl25
      of coursse i still get bad beats, but there are (so far) not so
      much fishes that call your preflop all in with Q10 and win.

      Anyway had once again a nice bad run today
      join a table, the first 4 hands i play t showdown, i loose all against straight
      lol

      Ak (K pair on flop)<Q10 straight on river
      AQ (A pair on flop) <A4 straight on river
      KQ (two pair on flop) <AJ straight on flop
      AK (Kpair on flop) < AA

      but still my bankroll is okay... because that was the only bad luck
      i got- i think in NL25 its also more fun to play... more real poker
      than Nl10 Lotto... i know some of U will say NL25 is still Lotto
      but, believe me for a beaten down Frtiz like me, its a huge difference
      to NL10! ;-)

      saludos
    • EasterH
      EasterH
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      @ bergstaiger

      i agree with you- i continue to play my game... i think thats the best way to get up again
      if i would just narrow it down on playing only Ak AA KK i would loose even more!
      thats exactly the problem... my problem is not that sometimes
      my steal go wrong (of course that happens a lot ;-) )
      the real problem is that evn the mosterhands that should
      get my bakroll back up loose...
      right now im recovering prett well
      i think moving up a level was the best idea (as long as it works hehe)

      up the aces