Orvara: Second FT / rush nl25

    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Hi everyone

      Backround:
      I´m 25 years old student living in Iceland. Found pokerstrategy in September and since then study the game hard and played a lot. I play at pokerstars and so far i have played 83k hands.

      My poker history so far:
      I began shortstacking nl10 and that went horrible. I was down 40$ in first two weeks. Then i read Opals blog and tried fl. I played 8k hands on 0.1$/0.2$ and even though i had no downswing i only made 6$. With staggering 0.23$ per hour i thought my poker carrear was over. I didn´t feel like playing at all. I made negative money of sss and nearly no money of fl.

      Then i decided to try sss again. Played 16k hands of nl10 with 2bb/100. Not the best performance but still pretty good. Up 67$ and with bonus that i was unlocking i had like 100$ in my account. I then climbed up to nl25 played 15k hands and made 150$. Moved up to nl50 played 2k hands and made 100$ with 5.55 BB/100. So in my first poker month my BR was at 500$ with all bonuses.

      Moved my br to Ft went up and down and mostly down. After one month there grinding all kind of variants I was breakeven after bonuses and rakeback.

      Deposited at partypoker 2010 and there I am.
  • 24 replies
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      reserved
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Played my first two sessions on fulltilt today. 1.3k hands and went down 8$. I´m getting pretty comfortable on sh tables. 3 betting more lightly and improved my postflop play. Still I need to watch more videos and start getting more green sessions.


      BR:
      Stars: 100$, Fulltilt: 492$
      total: 592$
      Bonus (106,5/11680 = 0,9%)
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Watched one video today
      Played 2.1k hands today and went down 25$ got 20$ from bonus. Played few hundreds HU hands. Did pretty good but in the end i got unlucky and missed all the profits. Getting better, have played 2k hands now mostly FL but fulltilt only have 1/2 so i´m littlebit moneyscared there but the good news is that the rake is capped at 0.5$ so there will be little bit less rake there.

      I can´t win SH tables. Have played 6k+ and i think only one session green. I have been doing ok on FR playing BSS so i´m thinking about switching. Going to let two graphs first of my carrear sh and then FR (only BSS hands)

      Interesting hand
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3(Hero):
      $10.00
      CO:
      $10.00
      BU:
      $4.97
      SB:
      $5.87
      BB:
      $9.70
      MP2:
      $10.21


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, 2.
      CO posts deadblind, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, BB calls $0.40.

      Flop: ($1.15) T, 9, J (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80.

      Turn: ($2.75) 5 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.90, BB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $3.10.

      River: ($12.75) 9 (2 players)
      BB bets $3.40, Hero calls $3.40.

      Final Pot: $19.55.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows a flush, ace high(Ad 2d).
      BB shows a straight flush, king high(Kd Qd).

      BB wins with a straight flush, king high(Kd Qd).

      Added new challange. Want to buy 500pc Chip set for 14.7k points, to release all the bonus i need 8333 so it´s little bit more.

      BR:
      Stars: 100$, Fulltilt: 487$
      total: 587$
      Bonus: (22/500 = 4,4%)
      Points: (450/14700 = 3%)

      PS:
      Does anybody know how I can save hands from a old db in pt3 from just one limit into new db ?
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Even though few if any read this </sarcasm off> I will update this blog for myself

      Have been playing nl25 BSS 1.3k hands and so far feel like i can beat this limit. Nearly breakeven because of one hand that i played pretty bad. Overplayed my pocket kings and lost to trips.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP1:
      $5.00
      MP2:
      $5.00
      MP3:
      $25.17
      CO:
      $29.30
      BU:
      $49.14
      SB:
      $13.97
      BB(Hero):
      $25.70
      UTG2:
      $25.50


      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
      5 folds, BU raises to $0.85, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.00, BU calls $2.15.

      Flop: ($6.1) 9, 8, 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.25, BU calls $4.25.

      Turn: ($14.6) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.00, BU calls $8.00.

      River: ($30.6) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $10.75, Hero calls $10.45.

      Final Pot: $51.8.

      Results follow:

      BU shows a full-house, nines full of twos(9h 9s).
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and twos(Kc Kh).

      BU wins with a full-house, nines full of twos(9h 9s).


      My lifetime graph of nl25 bss :)



      BR:
      Stars: 156$, Fulltilt: 494$
      total: 650$
      Bonus: (33,78/500 = 6,7%)
      Points: (681/14700 = 4,6%)
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Boring rant
    • bernie0303
      bernie0303
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.09.2008 Posts: 3,416
      [graph]
      ouch. that doesn't look good.

      what exactly are u playing right now?
      u r talking about SH and FR, BSS and SSS.

      do u discuss hands with other guys, or just play them?
      do u play poker, or do u grind?


      Should i just withdraw the money and try some other hobby?
      Most lost on
      NL100(sss) - 120$ - 7k hands -> 6 stacks, nothing special
      NL50(sss) - 230$ - 6.6k hands - -3.5BB/100 -> 23 stacks. well, i'm not playing SSS, but maybe this is normal too?
      NL25BSS - 78$ - 1.3k hands - went on tilt and lost 4 BI in one session. The only tilted session i remember so i was winning at this level before i went on tilt and lowered my limit. wow, 4 stacks :f_eek: quit poker
      NL10SH - 90$ - 8k hands - -5.5BB/100 NL10 sucks
      Only real winning limit is
      nl10FR - i´m running 8BB/100 there over 5k hands
      samplesize, u know?
      i only play BSS SH, but 4 stacks on 1,3k hands is just nothing. i have days where i drop 1 stack for every 100 hands. on the other hand, there are days where i run really hot. sometimes u loose, sometimes the others win. thats poker, love it or quit it.
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Bernie0303 thanks alot :) . I agree with you. This is normal downswing little extreme but that may be because i play too many variants. I´m changing my plans. And nl10 is nothing but luck. I´m sticking to my plan this time :) . I have been posting hands and reviewing my play and will continue to do so. I think i´m a winning player. And one more no more HU, I don´t have the br for it. And if i need a break i will be playing plo5 or 1$ Mtt.

      Plan B
      sss nl25 until I reach 300$
      sss nl50 until I reach 625$
      Bss nl25 sh until I reach 1500$
      Bss nl50 sh

      I know december will be a good month for me
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Played 3.8k hands last two days of NL25 sss and up 12$ and realeased some bonuses so my current br is +288 that´s 43$ up i´m going to get that number up to 350$ then move up to nl50 and when my br reaches 625 i will try Nl25 BSS. Also i will try to get ironman bonus for additional 100$ bonus. I´m feeling pretty confident of my sss play again and i´m slightly losing sessions when i have bad luck, doing alright normally. Played 1k hands today and lost three all-ins with 3 outers, 3 AK vs small pokets but still only lost one BI.

      BR:
      Fulltilt: 288$
      Bonus: (160/500 = 32%)
      Points: (3300/14700 = 22,4%)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 3/22 = 13,6%
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Got my rakeback today so i went over the 300$ mark. So i started nl50 sss today. As usually it was rather swingy I ended 1.5 BI down after being carddead for half an hour. Did few mistakes but i´m steadly learning to avoid them. Did run into 2 outers only once

      BR:
      Fulltilt: 324$
      Bonus: (180/500 = 36%)
      Points: (3514/14700 = 23,9%)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 4/22 = 18%
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Been working so i haven´t played many hands but next few days I could get in decent grinding going on. I can´t wait until FT support let me play more than 8 tables sss with only 8 tables is pretty boring. I manage to play 500 hands/hr and after 1.6k hands i´m up two BI. Pretty swingy but that´s SS.

      This hand nearly putted me on tilt. Had lost 3 Bi in one round aces vs set and so on. But then i thought how funny this was and continued and ended that session in green.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $10.25
      BB:
      $10.15
      UTG2:
      $11.25
      MP1:
      $10.00
      MP2(Hero):
      $10.00
      MP3:
      $11.60
      CO:
      $40.00
      BU:
      $46.05


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
      2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($3.75) 2, 3, 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, BU raises to $44.55(All-In), Hero calls $6.00(All-In).

      Turn: ($56.8) 5 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($56.8) 4 (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $50.8.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of kings(Kc Kd).
      BU shows a straight, five high(Ad Qd).

      BU wins with a straight, five high(Ad Qd).

      I decided to change my point goal. I was going to get chips but friend of mine own pretty good set that we could use with 600 chips. So I was thinking about getting Harrington on cash games vol 1. for 10k points instead. Anyone have any thoughts about this? Also it´s pretty the much the amount that i have to get to clear the bonus.

      BR: +17$
      Fulltilt: 341$ (284$ to go)
      Bonus: (200/500 = 40%)
      Points: (4007/10000= 40%)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 5(out of 6)/22 = 22%
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Played 2.7k hands today and it went pretty well :) . I´m finally after a few weeks downswing getting back on track. Played pretty well and made only few mistakes. I have been working on few leaks that i found and that have helped me alot. I was losing in multiway pots and was too loose in the sb. I won 2 pretty big 3-way pots and lost none. Also i was maybe little bit too aggressive in freeplay. Also i got over 500 FTP today so i will get 2 more medals. Maybe not so big acheivement but still. First of many. And 130$ are alot more than i will get for ordinary workday. I´m getting my confidence back. I only need to win 29$ more to get to where i started at FullTilt.

      BR: +130$
      Fulltilt: 471$ (154$ to go)
      Bonus: (240/500 = 48%)
      Points: (4586/10000= 46%)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 6(out of 7 possible)/22 = 27%
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Hi there, time for little update

      I have been playing mostly sss on nl50, did make one stab at nl100 but ended that session after 500 hands 2.5 stacks down. Had a big swing but managed to get back on track. I played 10k hands on 6 days and i took a break last sunday. Grinded nl50 again to 525. And decided to take one stab at nl25sh, was going to wait till a get to 25 bi(625) but i decided to take one stab. I´m down to 455 after 3 hands


      I don´t "slowplay" very often but here i thought i had the nuts
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BB(Hero):
      $23.20
      MP3:
      $23.94
      CO:
      $25.87
      BU:
      $73.32
      SB:
      $58.58


      Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 5.
      3 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.5) 5, 9, 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($4.5) K (2 players)
      SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50.

      River: ($13.5) 8 (2 players)
      SB bets $51.83, Hero calls $16.45(All-In).

      Final Pot: $81.78.

      Results follow:

      SB shows a straight flush, nine high(6d 7d).
      Hero shows four of a kind, fives(5h 5c).

      SB wins with a straight flush, nine high(6d 7d).

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $27.55
      BB:
      $38.30
      MP2:
      $69.60
      MP3(Hero):
      $29.29
      CO:
      $26.00
      BU:
      $56.25


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds.

      Flop: ($2.25) T, 5, T (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $2.75.

      Turn: ($11.25) Q (2 players)
      SB bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00.

      River: ($25.25) T (2 players)
      SB bets $10.00, Hero raises to $16.79(All-In), SB calls $5.05.

      Final Pot: $57.09.

      Results follow:

      SB shows a full-house, tens full of aces(Ad Ac).
      Hero shows a full-house, tens full of kings(Kc Kh).

      SB wins with a full-house, tens full of aces(Ad Ac).


      Didn´t put him on pocket aces.
      Then i´m back grinding nl50 sss :) Till I get proper br. I didn´t tilt at all but I´m not continueing till I get proper br.

      BR: -16$
      Fulltilt: 455$ (170$ to go)
      Bonus: (340/500 = 68%)
      Points: (6380/10000= 63,8%)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 12(out of 14 possible)/25 =48%
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Hi there,

      I started with 2 really bad sessions on nl50sss and went down 10Bi. So i was back to 360$ pretty devestating. I reveiewed my game and i think i was little bit on tilt. Calling ai með JJ. I had perfect day today and began on nl10SH after 500 hands i was up one stack, after 1000 hands i was down 3 stacks. Two of them against the same player. Basically two coinflips that I lost. Then I had 3 pretty good sessions and recovered all my losses. FT finally let me play more than 8 tables so i 16 tabled nl25 after 800 hands i was up 5BI. I´m feeling comfortable on SH tables. 3 betting in the right places and useing stats to read villians hands. I still make mistakes but i´m getting there. I feel my play is pretty good for NL10 and if i switch from 6 tables to 2-4 when i go up to NL25 i think i will crush that limit too. Today i´m up 500bb in 2.7k hands with winrate of 9.41BB/100. Also the my non-showdown winnings are up and at one time it was on the plus side on the graph. I think this is because i choose more carefully when to c-bet and when not to.

      BR: +40$ (with a 100$ downswing)
      Fulltilt: 495$ (130$ to go)
      Bonus: (380/500 = 76%)
      Points: (7151/10000= 71,5%)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 14(out of 16 possible)/22 = 63,6%

      Is there any soft satellite that i can buy in for FTP points? Anything like 6m super turbos on stars where 1-2 get´s 11$ 3rd gets points back?
    • arisko
      arisko
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.09.2009 Posts: 392
      Could get interesting...
      This is just constructive criticism, nothing bad really. I just get so confused when reading your blog since you have so many different things going on. You were talking about DoN's,SSS,BSS SH. Don't you think you should try and go for just one play style until you truly truly win constantly over a big sample size? And I think you jump too much up and down limits.

      I'm sorry if it sounds like im trying to teach you something, it's just my honest opinion about things you should think of to get better. It's also easier and keeps it more interesting for the reader if we actually have a clear idea of what you're playing and what specific areas you're trying to improve on.

      I'll check back, hope you have good luck with all the different styles :) and some day master them all.
    • anstaendig
      anstaendig
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.11.2006 Posts: 3,833
      Originally posted by arisko
      Could get interesting...
      This is just constructive criticism, nothing bad really. I just get so confused when reading your blog since you have so many different things going on. You were talking about DoN's,SSS,BSS SH. Don't you think you should try and go for just one play style until you truly truly win constantly over a big sample size? And I think you jump too much up and down limits.

      I'm sorry if it sounds like im trying to teach you something, it's just my honest opinion about things you should think of to get better. It's also easier and keeps it more interesting for the reader if we actually have a clear idea of what you're playing and what specific areas you're trying to improve on.

      I'll check back, hope you have good luck with all the different styles :) and some day master them all.
      #2

      Focus on one game.
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      That´s what I have been doing last few days. I have been playing SH alot. I´m almost ready to move up to nl25 and feel I´m crushing nl10. I still play sss because to get 200 FTP at nl10SH you have to play 2.6k hands and that´s 5 hours with 6 tables.

      Update:
      Because of a great day today i´m rolled for Nl25SH. So on monday I will focus on SH ONLY. I´m feeling great about play but I feel like I have to do something more to don´t get into downswing after downswing.

      Also i played in a 500FTP satilate for some tournament with buyin 20+2$ cashed :) . Unregistered and got 4500FTP (I would have preferred 22$ but still). I will be working when it start. Heard that i could sell 1000FTP for 3.6$ so it´s like 16$ that way. I´m thinking about selling all my FTP´s when i reach 20k don´t need any of the products in the store and that way i get full rakeback.

      Showing last two days graph


      Goals:
      Watch one video per day (Days when I don´t have to work)
      Read 1-2 articles on BSS and SH per week
      Get 200FTP per day
      No money goals now ;)

      BR: +178$
      Fulltilt: 673$
      Bonus: (420/500 = 84%)
      Points: 11745 (*3.6= 42,2$)
      Ironman days (over 200 FTP) - 16(out of 18 possible)/25= 64%
      I´m already Silver and after 4 more days I will be Gold.

      From 2 December
      Originally posted by Orvara
      Plan B
      sss nl25 until I reach 300$ Done
      sss nl50 until I reach 625$ Done
      Bss nl25 sh until I reach 1500$ starting
      Bss nl50 sh

      I know december will be a good month for me
      I took me only 16 days to recover my br. And most of it was rb and bonuses. I´m trying to change that so i´m changing my Bss NL50 when i reach 1500 to when i´m winning with good bb/100 nl25 then i will move up. I´m tired of being rb sss. I think the real money comes when I start to crush each limit. I´m not talking about 100k hands but if i´m not satisfied after 20k hands I will play alot more. Also I have to set stop limit to 450$ so if i that low i will rebuild my br again.

      Thanks all for reading and please feel free to post your oppinion or criticism.
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Played 3 sessions of nl25sh. The first one was a disaster. I was very tired and had been working alot that day but I figured it would be good idea to get some FTP points to get ironman. Lost two BI pretty quick and called it a night. Then my moral was pretty low and in 350 hands I had lost 4 bi. But today I began and watched one video from hasenbraten and it boosted my confidence. So I played 2 short sessions and recoverd nearly everything and if I didn´t made incredible stupid semi-bluff / bluff. I feel pretty confident at the tables now and feel like I play my A game. I feel like it was good decision to switch to sh bss and focus on winrates instead of points and rb/bonuses. So i´m dropping my ironman challange. I´m changing it to getting gold. I don´t think I will benifit of playing tired to get extra 25$. That´s just one bi. The points will flow in when i start to play higher stakes.

      BR: +27$
      Fulltilt: 700$
      Bonus: (420/500 = 84%)
      Ironman(Gold) 4 days left
    • Orvara
      Orvara
      Silver
      Joined: 22.08.2009 Posts: 87
      Been playing Sh for few weeks now and I can´t beat nl25. Everytime I give it a shot I loose 2-4 BI in fewer than 1k hands. Moved my br to partypoker for 500$ bonus + 100$ point bonus + cash machine. Started there with 500 got up to 630 and down to 450 with nl25sh in one day. Got new monitor so it´s much more comfortable playing 6 tables. I used to use 2 with 4 tables each (15" laptop monitor(1920*1200) + 17"(something really low)). So now I´m using the laptop for lobby and all programs and the new monitor for tables.

      So I´m setting up new objective. Shifting my focus to sss again. Last day´s I have been reading and learning more advanced strategy and for now on I will only play 4-6 tables on nl50 and move up to nl100 with 40BI (800$) (and not earlier). I have beaten nl50 for good sample before with little advanced techinques.

      Finished reading again all sss articles and watched 3 beginners videos and 3 advanced videos. I´m setting some incentive to get my focus back on track. I´m going to cash out all bonuses and buy ps3 for it. Here in Iceland ps3 costs 522$ so this is very doable in one month. I have 440$ now so i´m starting at nl50 with 44BI. I´m moving up to nl100 with 40BI of pure winnings. No bonuses. If I drop down to 250$ i´m moving down to nl25. No exceptions and no donking playing sh or taking shots at nl100 when i´m not ready. I stopped at nl100 few times. I know i can clear the bonuses on nl50 so i´m in no rush. So 500$+100$+69 = 669$ - 522$ = 145$ extra if i will be breakeven. Also i´m stopping jumping up and down the limits. I will play nl50 until my br reach 800$ without bonuses and then focus entirely on nl100 and move back to nl50 with 400$. I know thi

      ----------------------------------------------------------

      PS3 - mission

      Earn 4000 partypoints to realease 500$ + 100$
      Use advanced sss techinques
      Get myself ps3 for my bonuses.
      No bonuses will be part of my br
      play maximum of 6 tables and focus on the game not grind mindlessly

      ----------------------------------------------------------


      Br: 440$
      points: 165/4000 = 4%
      cashmachine 69 points (1 day)
    • Phgrinder
      Phgrinder
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.02.2009 Posts: 1,002
      i play SH and FR depending on my mood. sometimes a mix of both and around 4-6 tables

      i just play premium hands and only 3bet / 4bet with AK KK AA in position and adapt the flop it or fold it mentally.

      i know its robot like but its helping me beat the game. i know some people can exploit me, but it wont make up for all the other people i can exploit.
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