[NL20-NL50] Nl25 Calling A Re-Raise Preflop With Jj

    • Crokid
      Crokid
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 133
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $37,72
      MP2:
      $31,80
      CO:
      $15,33
      BU:
      $27,22

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J:club: , J:diamond:
      MP2 raises to $1,00, MP3 folds, CO calls $1,00, BU raises to $4,00, Hero calls $3,90, 3 folds.

        I am aware that I am behind at this moment but I called anyway. How big of a mistake is that?

      Flop: ($10,25) 2:club: , J:spade: , 6:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $5,00, Hero calls $5,00.

        I think here taht he has QQ/KK/AA and dont want to scare him of with a raise,I want him to go all-in on the turn as he did.

      Turn: ($20,25) 3:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU raises $18,22 (All-In), Hero calls $18,22.

      River: ($56,69) J:heart: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $56,69

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows four of a kind, jacks (Jc Jd)
      BU shows two pairs, kings and jacks (Kh Ks)

      Hero wins with four of a kind, jacks (Jc Jd)

      Comments please...
  • 7 replies
    • Ardarandir
      Ardarandir
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      Joined: 27.10.2006 Posts: 3,216
      I would fold preflop and c/r the flop to avoid scare cards
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      with those stats that BU had imo ur behind or fliping i give him QQ+ AQs+ AK and not often enough he might have TT there.
      i dont like to fold preflop here couse if i hit mine 2 outs i stack him for sure 95% of time and if a low flop came i might have best hand.

      i like your flop and turn line nh
    • Ardarandir
      Ardarandir
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      Joined: 27.10.2006 Posts: 3,216
      Originally posted by TheRebuz
      with those stats that BU had imo ur behind or fliping i give him QQ+ AQs+ AK and not often enough he might have TT there.
      i dont like to fold preflop here couse if i hit mine 2 outs i stack him for sure 95% of time and if a low flop came i might have best hand.

      i like your flop and turn line nh
      set mining at those odds and implieds is like throwing money out of the window
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
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      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 55,935 % 55,725 % 0,421 % 43,854 % QQ+, TT, AQs+, AKo
      Player 2: 44,065 % 43,854 % 0,421 % 55,725 % JdJc

      u have 44% vs his tightest range so i dont see that is throwing money away, and u dont call just for set mining with JJ

      and vs his looser range (including some hands that he can 3bet bluff in position)
      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 62,558 % 62,300 % 0,516 % 37,184 % JdJc
      Player 2: 37,442 % 37,184 % 0,516 % 62,300 % QQ+, TT-22, A9s+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo

      and there only over 76 hands u got those stats and u can see that he is quite pasiv so u can exspect that he will check turn if he mised so imo u cant fold on flop there
    • Ardarandir
      Ardarandir
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      Joined: 27.10.2006 Posts: 3,216
      i dont see that as the tighest range of a 15/13 player, besides you are in a guessing game postflop and really dont have much playability. If you hit your low flop, you can't c/r because than you isolate yourself vs. better hands. So you gonna give 2 freecards to hands with 6 outs against you and if he 2nd barrels you are in a really bad spot, because your hand is basically face up and so he might 2nd barrel with air and than he might not <--- guessing game
      So basically you need to play for set value or get comfortable with getting it in pre in my opinion. Since set mining is throwing money out of the window and i wouldn't be comfortable with getting it in pre. I fold.
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
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      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      so what is his range

      kk+ AK comon

      its short handed and they play only 79 hands, thats something like 15 orbits (couse they are 5 handed there) in every orbit he is 2 times in SB or BB so he played like 30 hands in blinds
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      call pf is fine, but being oop I think you can also 4-bet and call shove
      I´d prefer c/rai flop, since there could be scare cards for you any his overpair, so better is get the money all-in on the flop when you hold the nuts