[NL20-NL50] Nl25 Qq Sh

    • DrFunk
      DrFunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2008 Posts: 348
      BTN is 30/24/3 over 130 hands. 13% 3bet. I think I played the flop bad. I just donked the flop because I put him on AK, AQish hands. He has a high 3bet % though. He could have TT+, AJ+?

      Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 366746
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      Hero (UTG): $25.00
      CO: $8.65
      BTN: $30.58
      SB: $25.86
      BB: $29.38

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Q :spade: Q :club:
      Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN raises to $3.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.35

      Flop: ($7.05) 9 :diamond: 5 :club: 7 :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.25, BTN calls $4.25

      Turn: ($15.55) K :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $10.25, Hero folds
  • 6 replies
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      i'm 4 beting pre flop to 10.5-11.5$ and call shove, if got called i shove almoust any flop
      except AKx flop, and i might check/fold on flop AJX or ATX flop, Axx is 50/50, Kxx flop i shove except for KTx and KJx thats 50/50
    • DrFunk
      DrFunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2008 Posts: 348
      Going AI PF (calling 5bet) for a full stack with QQ against a solid player is spewy, imo ...
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      Originally posted by DrFunk
      Going AI PF (calling 5bet) for a full stack with QQ against a solid player is spewy, imo ...
      what full stack, comon, ur 100 blinds deep why u don't want to put ur money in with 3 best hand??? when u 4 bet pre and he shove u got to call for pot odds etc with ur stack ur pot commitet and invested more than 3/5 of ur stack so if he shoves u got to call there preflop, and often enough u'll got the best hand there, often enough he will fold to ur 4 bet, and often enouh he will call and fold on flop when u shove.
      if u 2 had like 200+ bb is bad to go in pre flop but i'll 4 bet it any way ( and i dont think that good player will shove 200 bb stack preflop with AA-KK)

      vs solid player range of 3beting shorhanded u got 64%+++ chances to win (couse he might 3 bet as bluf sometimes in positions). so imo u shouldn't be scared to put ur money in


      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 35,133 % 34,399 % 1,468 % 64,132 % 77+, A9s+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo
      Player 2: 64,867 % 64,132 % 1,468 % 34,399 % QsQc
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      your hand is a lot easier to play if you 4-bet pf and then call shove, since he would likely shove pf with TT+/AK, sometimes even AQ
      postflop I think c/r is a little better option
      I´m not folding turn with pair+flushdraw
      Most of the times he´d raise flop and go all-in with his draws, so his hand is a lot like 9x/88 type hand that doesn´t want to get all-in flop.
      If you check then I like a lot more c/rai, since you´re often ahead and he´d likely also call shove with worse hands
    • DrFunk
      DrFunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.01.2008 Posts: 348
      Thanks.

      Though i'm still not a huge fan of stacking myself here...
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Think your line pf is fine, I wouldn't shove if I can help it.
      I would rather c/r the flop and call shove