[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH AJs squeeze with fish in the middle

    • koaesica
      koaesica
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      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 1,066
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $28.20
      BU:
      $94.70
      SB(Hero):
      $50.75
      BB:
      $9.80
      MP2:
      $52.30
      MP3:
      $71.55


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J.
      MP2 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BU calls $1.50, Hero raises to $7.00, BB folds, MP2 calls $5.50, BU folds.

      Flop: ($16) K, 7, 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.00, MP2 calls $8.00.

      Turn: ($32) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $20.00, MP2 raises to $37.30(All-In), Hero calls $15.75.

      River: ($105.05) J (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $89.3.

      I had no stats on UTG at the moment. Here I was 3-betting preflop for value to isolate the 50+ vpip fish BU. Is this reasonable? It didn't quite work out as planned, but the rest of the hand is quite standard I suppose.
  • 7 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      squeeze pf with that strong hand is fine
      not sure if mp2 could fold there Kx, but if you think he could, then bet/call 12$ on the flop and shove turn.
      This way you have the highest fold equity.
    • koaesica
      koaesica
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      Joined: 31.08.2008 Posts: 1,066
      Would calling preflop also be good? Is squeezing better?
    • Cervus
      Cervus
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      Joined: 15.11.2007 Posts: 59
      Originally posted by koaesica
      Would calling preflop also be good? Is squeezing better?
      Without stats on the opponent, I'd think twice before 3-betting a bet from MP. I don't think the hero'd call a 4-bet, and it'd be a pity to turn such good a hand into bluff. In case the opponent called, even hitting a top pair wouldn't necessarily put hero in a good position (especially playing OP).

      However, I'm not sure a call is much better of a decision. Tough choice :-)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      I like calling more since it rarely happens that fish (depends on his VPIP/PFR, coldcall%) that calls a 3bet as well.

      You might isolate yourself as well if you SQZ and Villain 4bets, fish definitly will fold. Moreover you do not isolate yourself OOP + against a tight range in case Villain will call.

      Villain is also UTG so I should give him some credit, Kaitz?
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
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      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      squeeze pf with that strong hand is fine
      not sure if mp2 could fold there Kx, but if you think he could, then bet/call 12$ on the flop and shove turn.
      This way you have the highest fold equity.
      this

      +8 $ wont work there not even if he have qq there, and sure he is not folding KX on that flop

      +
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      + THIS
      Originally posted by Gerv
      I like calling more since it rarely happens that fish (depends on his VPIP/PFR, coldcall%) that calls a 3bet as well.

      #1You might isolate yourself
      #2 if you SQZ and Villain 4bets, fish definitly will fold.
      #3 you do not want to isolate yourself OOP against a tight range if MP2 just calls.

      MP2 is practicly UTG
      after u bet flop and he dont fold u got to know that he is not folding on that turn nether
      so do u want to play for stacks??
      if answer is yes-> shove turn max FE
      if answer is no -> check fold turn/ or call a if he bets like 15-17$ and fold river if u dont hit ur flush
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by koaesica
      Would calling preflop also be good? Is squeezing better?
      It depends a lot to the player.
      If he is tight then you´re not really turning your hand into bluff because his 4-bet is nuts close to 100%
      If he might 4-bet often (probably also as a bluff) then you can also 3-bet and then shove over 4-bet, but in general people are not really 4-betting there very light as a bluff.
      If you call then it is quite hard to play your one pair hand postflop, so 3-betting is better since if you flop top pair or flushdraw you can easily go with your hand