Made a bad call on river... what was i thinking?

    • ironmask92
      ironmask92
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      Joined: 23.10.2009 Posts: 303
      Why did i make such a bad call on the river? I knew from before that he mini-raises pre-flop with kings. I had a bad feeling he had Aces or kings, but called small raises till river (hoping to hit 2 pairs or something), i was very close to folding river but just said "what the hell", and then found out he had aces. Last hand of the day and had trouble sleeping. What a sick feelling.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $3.15
      BU:
      $1.67
      SB:
      $3.12
      BB:
      $20.82
      UTG2:
      $2.20
      MP1(Hero):
      $10.27
      MP2:
      $3.82
      MP3:
      $7.66


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, K.
      UTG2 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, BU calls $0.10, SB folds, BB raises to $0.20, UTG2 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, BU calls $0.10.

      Flop: ($0.85) K, 3, 2 (4 players)
      BB bets $0.20, UTG2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, BU folds.

      Turn: ($1.25) T (2 players)
      BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40.

      River: ($2.05) 5 (2 players)
      BB bets $9.47, Hero calls $9.47(All-In).

      Final Pot: $20.99.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of kings(Q K).
      BB shows a pair of aces(A A).

      BB wins with a pair of aces(A A).
  • 17 replies
    • BoyRobot777
      BoyRobot777
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      Joined: 26.01.2009 Posts: 327
      both of you played the hands so bad... AA minraise against 4 players... you calling insane overbet on the pot was ofc the biggest with just top pair... oh well... lets hope that sick feeling stays longer, so no more calls like this happen
    • fun101rockets
      fun101rockets
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      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,162
      u cannopt sleep after losing $10. common u can make that in under an hour in a real job
    • Justin37
      Justin37
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      Joined: 25.07.2009 Posts: 445
      Same dude, losing over $10 on NL25 on river i had a set AQAXA and he had a full house 88-8AA.

      I had a VERY GOOD feeling he had me after the river when he check-raise. Forcing me to go all in with my last $10. I made a big mistake n i can feel your pain.

      Anyway, the experience of losing to this kind of hand will make us more better as a poker player.
    • ironmask92
      ironmask92
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      Joined: 23.10.2009 Posts: 303
      Thanks for the support, justin. Poker is all about learning and i'll keep working on my game and avoid these types of mistakes in the future.
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Originally posted by ironmask92
      Thanks for the support, justin. Poker is all about learning and i'll keep working on my game and avoid these types of mistakes in the future.
      Your two biggest mistakes were both preflop ...
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
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      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      lol thought this was limit until the river with all this minraising bs
    • superjunk
      superjunk
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      Joined: 21.06.2007 Posts: 2,856
      Why did you limp KQo in this hand ?
      And do you always limp KQ in middle position ?

      Tokyoaces, i only see one mistake.. (the limp) the call is fine.
    • ironmask92
      ironmask92
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      Joined: 23.10.2009 Posts: 303
      I limped because raising with KQ in middle position is dangerous and i just wanted to see the flop. Hoping for a good hand.
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
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      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      bad play preflop imo

      raise them and fold to a decent 3-bet
    • ajspingvin1
      ajspingvin1
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      Joined: 13.08.2009 Posts: 19
      :club: 1. LIMP/CALL. You should bet preflop and after the flop. If you get a 3 bet preflop or after the flop (if he slowplays aces) you have some clue how to play afterwards...

      :spade: 2. RIVER CALL. You simply cant pay 10$ for 2$ in the pot with top pair, even you had a top kicker which you hadnt.


      p.s. The AA guy played even worse this hand-min raise 4 way pot preflop :f_eek: and after the flop :f_mad: , all in on the river :f_confused: ...
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Originally posted by superjunk
      Tokyoaces, i only see one mistake.. (the limp) the call is fine.
      My experience tells me that KQ plays really poorly in a multi-way pot. It was absolutely squeeze or fold after a min-raise.
    • ironmask92
      ironmask92
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      Joined: 23.10.2009 Posts: 303
      Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm going to try and be more aggressive with KQ next time, so if i re-raise and someone pushes then i'll fold or if they just call, there will be less players on the flop and then i'll raise on flop and see what happens from there.
    • Kimber88
      Kimber88
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      Joined: 08.07.2008 Posts: 1,333
      Originally posted by fun101rockets
      u cannopt sleep after losing $10. common u can make that in under an hour in a real job
      That's not the point.
    • Hahaownedlolz
      Hahaownedlolz
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 1,755
      The only really big mistake was on the river.

      A-4 would beat you, a set would beat you and even A-K would beat you. and ofcourse AA

      You realy can't call that donk size bet with just a K high especially not against a tight player.
    • ironmask92
      ironmask92
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      Joined: 23.10.2009 Posts: 303
      Its not K high, i had top pair.
    • Zervin311
      Zervin311
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      Joined: 04.06.2009 Posts: 90
      If you had three aces on AA8xx you don't have a set, you have trips.
    • Zervin311
      Zervin311
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      Joined: 04.06.2009 Posts: 90
      *i just wanted to see the flop*

      Why would you want to see the flop if you could either take down the pot right there or not lose your stack against aces?

      Donks want to see the flop, thats where the money comes from..