[NL20-NL50] AA vs turn shove

    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2008 Posts: 1,114
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $52.17
      BB(Hero):
      $73.11
      MP2:
      $65.22
      MP3:
      $49.25
      CO:
      $49.18
      BU:
      $53.03


      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A.
      2 folds, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($5.25) 6, T, T (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.50, CO raises to $7.87, Hero calls $4.37.

      Turn: ($20.99) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $38.81(All-In), Hero calls $38.81.

      River: ($98.61) K (0 players)
      Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $59.8.

      Decided to call flop with intention to c/r turn , because I expect to only get action by Tx if I 4 bet flop so I wanted draw/pp to value themself but then he overshoved turn and wasnt sure what to do . Fold there ?
  • 4 replies
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      reraise flop to 18$ OOP and ur decision is much easier, as played u show so much weaknes and u got to call that shove (but u never know where u r when u call)
    • AninIII
      AninIII
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      Hi,

      tough one.
      I guess it's way ahead/way behind on flop, because I don't expect him to get crazy with FD on paired board.
      So call on flop is fine. On turn it looks like a bluff, or he's turning his KQs or QJs into a (semi-)bluff.
      I guess I'd call it too, just to get an impression what the hell he plays like that. But keep in mind: it could be easily Tx...
      A fold is also very possible and I wouldn't blame you.

      Let's see what the judges think.

      Best regards,
      Anin
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      Originally posted by AninIII
      Hi,

      tough one.
      I guess it's way ahead/way behind on flop, because I don't expect him to get crazy with FD on paired board.
      So call on flop is fine. On turn it looks like a bluff, or he's turning his KQs or QJs into a (semi-)bluff.
      I guess I'd call it too, just to get an impression what the hell he plays like that. But keep in mind: it could be easily Tx...
      A fold is also very possible and I wouldn't blame you.

      Let's see what the judges think.

      Best regards,
      Anin
      on that board i'll reraise with flush draw any pockets, AK, AQ, JQ, KQ, as i might do vs smart agresiv oponent with boat TX so he can think that i'm reraising light and stack him

      SO WITH AA u got to 4 bet it there IMO
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by TheRebuz
      Originally posted by AninIII
      Hi,

      tough one.
      I guess it's way ahead/way behind on flop, because I don't expect him to get crazy with FD on paired board.
      So call on flop is fine. On turn it looks like a bluff, or he's turning his KQs or QJs into a (semi-)bluff.
      I guess I'd call it too, just to get an impression what the hell he plays like that. But keep in mind: it could be easily Tx...
      A fold is also very possible and I wouldn't blame you.

      Let's see what the judges think.

      Best regards,
      Anin
      on that board i'll reraise with flush draw any pockets, AK, AQ, JQ, KQ, as i might do vs smart agresiv oponent with boat TX so he can think that i'm reraising light and stack him

      SO WITH AA u got to 4 bet it there IMO
      Just different playing styles
      Yo think he is raising there with bluff and therefore would 3-bet as a bluff which you balance 3-betting also with overpairs and draws.
      I personally don´t think players are bluffing there very often and likely they hold draw which they might shove over 3-bet or Tx, sometimes some pp-s which they want to know where they at.
      So I also like c/c flop and evaluating on the turn.
      I should need some info against player. He may easily be on scared money and shoving turn to protect his hand, if he is aggressive then I think it is more draw than made hand and I´d call.
      Against unknown fold seems better, since unknowns won´t shove very often over potsize with draws.