[NL20-NL50] NL KK in 4-bet pot= shove???

    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      Just shove, or massage the pot? maybe bet 1/3 potsize, then put the rest in on turn? Or, induce a bluff?

      Villain is unknown (but flatting this size of a 4 bet, only to fold on the flop feels a little fishy, what could it be? JJ that's scared of the Q? AK?)

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $23.75
      UTG2:
      $54.45
      MP1:
      $50.00
      MP2(Hero):
      $51.25
      MP3:
      $58.05
      CO:
      $50.00
      BU:
      $60.50
      SB:
      $68.05


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
      2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, CO raises to $8.00, 3 folds, Hero raises to $22.00, MP3 folds, CO calls $14.00.

      Flop: ($46.75) Q, 6, T (2 players)
      Hero bets $29.25, CO folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $46.75.
  • 2 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      since you only have half potsize left and there could come some bad turn cards for you I like shove instead of betting small or checking/calling.
      If he has Qx, maybe even JJ or Tx he would often call since he can always put you on AK
    • mjkirwan1980
      mjkirwan1980
      Silver
      Joined: 01.05.2008 Posts: 50
      Hi, just wondering how often you reallly think once you reraise preflop you are getting called by Qx or Tx other than AQs or ATs???

      OK maybe AQ but almost every other hand is folding preflop except AA, KK, QQ and maybe JJ, TT or AK.

      If that is the case....you are only getting paid by AQ. I would have said a half decent player could get away from JJ in this spot to an all in bet. Other than this you only get called by a hand that is beating you.

      I would have thought check call would be a better line. My chips would be going in but I would at least give them the opportunity to hang themselves.

      More than happy for someone to correct me :)