[NL2-NL10] KK vs trips

    • Fonyman
      Joined: 18.07.2009 Posts: 55
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
      MP2 calls $0.10, MP3 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.00, MP2 calls $1.90, CO folds, BU calls $1.60.

      Flop: ($6.45) 7, 8, Q (3 players)
      Hero bets $12.25, MP2 calls $9.60(All-In), BU folds.

      Turn: ($28.3) A (0 players)
      MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

      River: ($28.3) 9 (0 players)
      MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $18.7.
      Results follow:

      MP2 shows three of a kind, eights(8 8).
      Hero shows a pair of kings(K K).

      MP2 wins with three of a kind, eights(8 8).

      I shoved it because wanted to get called by a Queen and because there were crazy draws out there..
      Is it wrong?
  • 3 replies
    • elco49
      Joined: 24.01.2009 Posts: 202
      I would 3bet to 1,7 preflop, bet 2/3-3/4 on the flop and call a shove.

      MP2, CO and BU all look like fish so I would be very happy to get it in on the flop.
    • AninIII
      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944

      first of all please don't post results.
      Secondly: Villain doesn't have trips, he has a set; thats a big difference.

      Raise preflop to 5 times CO raiser and BU caller is fine.
      You can even consider to raise to 2,25-2,50$ as you are oop.

      On flop just bet 2/3 pot and call a shove on that drawy board. This way you maybe get paid off by AQ or Axs which he might find a fold to your shove.
      If he has a set there it's just a cooler. Villain made a mistake in calling preflop.

      Let's see what the judges think.

      Best regards,
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      What elco49 and AninIII said, anywhere from $1.6 to $2.2 is ok. C-betting 2/3 instead of shoving might look stronger or weaker to different players, you're never folding anyway so it's just a judgment call.

      MP2's limp/coldcall is just atrocious, i'd be happy to play the same hand over and over preflop to see him fold every time he didn't get a set.

      Hope it helps.