[NL2-NL10] AQ dbl Stack, A on flop, tight villian donks

    • elhh82
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
      SB ($50.25)
      BB ($26.40)
      UTG ($12.60)
      Hero ($22.60)
      UTG+2 ($74.35)
      MP1 ($23.10)
      MP2 ($113)
      CO ($50)
      BTN ($27.30)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: A:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $2, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $1.75, fold

      FLOP ($4.50) A:heart: 2:club: 7:heart:

      SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

      TURN ($10.50) A:heart: 2:club: 7:heart: K:heart:

      SB bets $5.50, Hero folds

      SB wins $10

      Villain regular 11/8, never donks

      This felt like AA/KK/AK to me.. what do you think?

      If i had a normal stack, i still insta push the flop, but with a double stack, didn't think i had enough equity to risk so many chips.
  • 5 replies
    • Ishindar
      Joined: 31.12.2008 Posts: 259
      good fold imho but u should have made this decision on the flop rather than the turn.
    • elhh82
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      i would've considered calling it down, if it wasn't a king/jack/heart on the turn actually. The kings just happens to be the worst card possible.
    • dandycal
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Because of your increased stack I think he can be calling you with PPs. I like calling the flop, since you can extract value from KK, QQ and lower.

      The K :heart: on the turn really sucks but still I'm inclined to go broke because I think he's going to call you with Q :heart: Q and J :heart: J and that you still have FE, as I believe he'd second barrel all his PPs here. And this 1/2 potsize bet on such a drawy board doesn't look too strong to me. I'm curious about what the judges have to say though.
    • elhh82
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      My biggest concern is villain's postflop stats.

      He donked the flop 1/69 times (the one time being here)

      AF is 1.8

      So this is a very very unconventional line for him to play. I wonder what would make him do this.

      Plus for preflop, he has 6% open call at SB and 8% 3-bet at SB. Would this mean then that i should put his hand on the top 2%?
    • burek2000
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey elhh82,

      I would play this the very same way. I think the worst hand he will donk this flop for value is KK, but also 22/77/AA/AK, also few bluffs, but not too many(that's why I don't think folding flop is correct)... ...and on the turn KK just improved, so there's no if any part of his range that you beat imo and his second barrel does look like a value bet.

      I will however leave this open for another judge.