[NL2-NL10] some mixed SSS and BSS hands

    • degnic
      degnic
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.02.2007 Posts: 3,953
      BSS Hand1:

      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      MP3:
      $27,06
      BU:
      $20,35
      UTG+1:
      $53,49
      UTG+2:
      $47,35
      MP1:
      $26,29
      MP2:
      $24,65
      CO:
      $5,60
      Hero:
      $24,75
      SB:
      $28,05

      0,10/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:heart: , Q:club:
      2 folds, MP1 calls $0,25, 4 folds, SB calls $0,15, Hero raises to $1,25, MP1 calls $1,00, SB folds.

      Flop: ($2,75) 8:heart: , 4:heart: , T:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,25, MP1 calls $1,25.

      Turn: ($5,25) A:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 checks.

      River: ($5,25) 8:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $2,50, Hero calls $2,50.

      Final Pot: $10,25

      the flop bet was supposed to be 2,25$ btw, mis-click though :p


      BSS Hand2:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      CO:
      $24,97
      BU:
      $14,01
      SB:
      $14,51
      BB:
      $25,67
      MP2:
      $4,13
      Hero:
      $37,48
      UTG+2:
      $16,66
      UTG+1:
      $24,25
      MP1:
      $5,13
      UTG:
      $6

      0,10/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9:diamond: , 7:diamond: . UTG posts a blind of $0,25.
      UTG checks, UTG+1 calls $0,25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0,25, CO calls $0,25, BU calls $0,25, SB raises to $0,75, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0,50, Hero calls $0,50, CO folds, BU calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($3,75) 7:heart: , 7:spade: , K:diamond: (4 players)
      SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2, BU folds, SB calls $2,00, UTG+1 folds.

      Turn: ($7,75) 4:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($7,75) 3:heart: (2 players)
      SB bets $3,50, Hero raises to $11,00, SB raises to $11,76 (All-In), Hero calls $0,76.

      Final Pot: $31,27

      Sometimes when I haven't played a hand in a long time I like to call this kind of hands even from middle position. I gave SB hand range of AA-TT, AK. I saw him betting way under the normal size with AA before.



      SSS Hand1:

      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      BB:
      $33,05
      MP1:
      $88,11
      MP2:
      $73,23
      MP3:
      $55,28
      CO:
      $12,79
      BU:
      $9,43
      Hero:
      $12,29
      SB:
      $51,77
      UTG+1:
      $10,83
      UTG:
      $48,50

      0,25/0,50 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J:spade: , J:club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $2,00, 6 folds, BB raises to $3,50, Hero calls $1,50.

      Flop: ($7,25) 8:spade: , 3:heart: , K:spade: (2 players)
      BB bets $2,50, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $9,75

      I don't like these minreraises. After the flop and his small flopbet I was pretty sure I was behind so I folded. besides, was just ending for the night, I hate to make a bad call go broke on last hand I play :p


      SSS Hand2:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      UTG:
      $53,97
      UTG+1:
      $50
      UTG+2:
      $41,50
      MP1:
      $46,92
      MP3:
      $8,50
      CO:
      $27,48
      BU:
      $95,39
      SB:
      $48,58
      BB:
      $10
      Hero:
      $10

      0,25/0,50 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2:heart: , 7:club: . Hero posts a blind of $0,50.
      UTG calls $0,50, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0,50, Hero checks, 2 folds, BU calls $0,50, SB calls $0,25, BB checks.

      Flop: ($3,00) 2:club: , 7:diamond: , 6:diamond: (6 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $1,50, UTG calls $1,50, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $6,00, BU calls $6,00, 2 folds, UTG calls $4,50.

      Turn: ($22,50) 6:heart: (3 players)
      UTG checks, Hero checks, BU bets $3,50, UTG calls $3,50, Hero raises to $3,50 (All-In).

      River: ($33,00) T:heart: (1 players)
      UTG folds.

      Final Pot: $33,00

      ofcourse the turn card totally ruined my hand, but called anyway in hope for 2 or 7 on the river and it was only 3,50$ call into 33$ pot. Should've bet more on flop?


      SSS Hand3:


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
      MP3:
      $60,50
      BU:
      $96,83
      SB:
      $24
      BB:
      $248,82
      MP1:
      $34,10
      Hero:
      $18
      UTG+2:
      $28,55
      MP2:
      $56

      0,50/1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 8:club: , 8:diamond:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $4,00, BU folds, SB calls $3,50, BB folds.

      Flop: ($9,00) 7:heart: , 8:heart: , 4:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4,00.

      Turn: ($17,00) K:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($17,00) 7:club: (2 players)
      SB bets $11, Hero raises to $10,00 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $38,00

      Villain was also SSS player, so I was quite sure that the handrange he had didn't include draws, especially after he just called the flopbet (against another SSS player I think he would've raised on flop if he had something like A :heart: K :heart: ) Checked the turn hoping that he would think I had nothing and easy call on river. Maybe I played it bit risky, but I wanted to took the risk because I was pretty sure I dominated his handrange after flop and flop action and this seemed the best way to maximize the profit.
  • 3 replies
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      OK, here we go:

      Hand 1 BSS: Apart from your misclick its a nice hand.

      Hand 2 BSS: Why dont you bet the turn? You want to get value from your opponent. You dont get that much value if he just plays check/call or check/fold on the river

      Hand 1 SSS: nice hand

      Hand 2 SSS: I would push all-in on the flop. You do not want to give draws the appropriate odds to call meaning you would have to bet potsize (~$8). Since you have only $10 left simply go all-in.

      Hand 3 SSS: I would push on the turn. You are pot committed anyway. I dont want to wait until the flushdraw completes on the river.

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.07.2006 Posts: 5,644
      I will only evaluate the SSS-Hands:

      Hand 1.)
      For me its either a Push or a Fold. So if you do not have a read on your Opponent here (that he minraises with Premiumhands or maybe do that with Mediumpockets as well for deception), you fold here against this Reraise.


      Hand 2.)
      I would push here on the Flop, the pot already is $6 big, so you want to take the Pot right here (their are often some Pocket Pairs here on the other Players hand) or you want to make weaker hands (like Draws) made a bad call.
      Another good reason to push here is, that you will be pot committed on the Turn anyway and nearly any hand that calls you on the flop has the odds to call you on the Turn.
      And on NL $25 you often get called here anyway with Top Pair, a Draw or an Overpair.


      Hand 3.)
      If your opponent really was a true SSS-Player he might tried to trap you here with Pocket QQ, KK or AA. Otherwise he was just a Shorty.
      I honestly see no reason here for not betting the Turn here, why are you risking to allow a Flushdraw to hit his Flush on the River for free (e.g. if your opponents held AKs). So its an easy All-In for me on the Turn.
      I do not like to take risks, because I get to many Suckouts anyway. And btw. if Villian was a true Shortstack (I honestly doubt that), the King was in his Calling-Range.


      @Puschkin

      Please keep the SSS-Hands up to me to evaluate. ;)
    • degnic
      degnic
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.02.2007 Posts: 3,953
      the 2nd BSS hand I didn't bet on turn because if I did bet something like half the pot, I guess he would've called but surely would've checked the river and folded if I bet him all-in, this way he made a valuebet himself and I think they call the raise a lot more often when the initiative was their own. If he just checked the river, the profit wouldn't have been as good as already betting on turn, but I really don't think I could've moved him all-in if I bet on turn.

      & the third SSS hand, I think I could exclude the flushdraw after he just called the flop. If SSS player had 2 overcards & flushdraw here, I'm pretty sure he would've raised me, he was really aggressive. Against other pockets or just 2 overcards, which seemed the most likely hands, he was pretty much drawing dead & I didn't want to scare those hands away with strong turn bet. Against a unknown player, especially bigstacked, I would've definetly bet more on flop and pushed on turn.

      but anyway, thanks for the comments, always appreciated :)