[NL2-NL10] 78s MP Very loose, very passive table

    • elhh82
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Everest
      SB ($427)
      BB ($34.10)
      UTG ($106)
      UTG+1 ($87.20)
      Hero ($26.80)
      MP1 ($50)
      MP2 ($99)
      CO ($24.65)
      BTN ($35.60)

      Dealt to Hero 7:spade: 8:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, MP1 checks, MP2 calls $1, fold, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.50, BB checks

      FLOP ($7) 4:spade: 6:heart: T:club:

      SB checks, BB bets $2, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero calls $2, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $8, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $6, UTG+1 folds, Hero ??

      Table was just limping so much every hand, and rarely raise preflop, so i called.
  • 4 replies
    • raun
      Joined: 15.07.2007 Posts: 746
      i push there.
    • Ishindar
      Joined: 31.12.2008 Posts: 259
      u are way better off playing tight on a table like this in general. this hand pretty much shows why u shouldnt limp from early position. u have pot odds to call the initial flop bet but u dont have the pot odds to call the raise so u have to fold.
    • dandycal
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Hmm, I'm not sure push is the best here, even though it's tempting. But without a single OC hero won't be running so good against a T, and sets are also possible here.

      Hero had 36% equity vs a T, and with one caller to his AI he gets BEQ of 35%, so it's quite close. He can also be facing better hands than TP, then it gets even worse. So folding here is not a mistake imo, since his bet is too big for us to call.
    • Gerv
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      I think you are better off calling this $8 raise for direct pot odds if not implied odds since in case you hit your belly, it isn't really obvious and you can get more value from more opponents.

      Shoving is possible tho but I think EV wise u won't get much out of it. as Dandy points out, you have 36% against a Toppair and Everest Poker is mostly known for having {slowplaying monsters} players who are thinking like I haz pair so I call

      - Gerv