[NL20-NL50] AK TPTK vs Donk Shove Turn

    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
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      $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem
      CakePoker
      7 Players


      Stacks:
      UTG ($9)
      UTG+1 ($32.49)
      MP ($24.86)
      CO ($19.70)
      Hero (BTN) ($24.72)
      SB ($3.80)
      BB ($12.08)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 7 players) Hero is BTN A K
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1, MP folds

      Flop: 2 4 A ($2.90, 2 players)
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.85, UTG+1 calls $1.85

      Turn: 5 ($6.60, 2 players)
      UTG+1 goes all-in $29.44, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $36.04

      UTG+1 wins $35.71 (net +$3.22)


      Unknown opponent.

      I was thinking "Never go broke in an unraised pot"

      Evidently TPTK it's not good enough to call the shove on the turn, but it feels so fishy for villain to do that. I was a bit inclined to call. Most probably he slowplayed a set on the Flop. But he could also have had AQ,AJ IMO.


      Can you call here?
  • 6 replies
    • PokerRoad
      PokerRoad
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      Why were you thinking 'never go broke in an unraised pot' when you raised preflop.....aNywazz

      I think the turn is a fold most of time against an unknown.
      Sure sometimes he will be spaz bluffing you here but I suppose you have to wait until a three to snap off his crap.
    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
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      Why were you thinking 'never go broke in an unraised pot' when you raised preflop
      I didn't discuss Preflop. I was talking about the shove.
    • PokerRoad
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      Originally posted by Gabinr1
      Why were you thinking 'never go broke in an unraised pot' when you raised preflop
      I didn't discuss Preflop. I was talking about the shove.


      The pot was raised PREFLOP therefor its a RAISED POT ..
      So thinking interms of 'I dont want to go broke in an unraised pot' is clearly wrong imo :s_love:
    • Gabinr1
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      Originally posted by PokerRoad
      Originally posted by Gabinr1
      Why were you thinking 'never go broke in an unraised pot' when you raised preflop
      I didn't discuss Preflop. I was talking about the shove.


      The pot was raised PREFLOP therefor its a RAISED POT ..
      So thinking interms of 'I dont want to go broke in an unraised pot' is clearly wrong imo :s_love:
      I think you are right about that. But you know what I mean.

      Never go broke in an insufficiently raised pot :D
    • PokerRoad
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      yes think I get you now..

      he shove over 20 into a 6 pot ..kinda sucks to play off his implied odds and therefor make his preflop and flop incorrect play = correct play vrs you here ... wow do I even make sence anymore LoL..
      Anyway correct fold and correct logic used..just mabey you phrased wrong but hay try get me to phrase that in Romanian ..Now that would be funny :P
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Since 3x got there and he can easily shove two pair and there aren´t any draws on the flop I think it is fold
      You´re not just ahead enough times to call there