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[NL20-NL50] NL20 FR - Boat vs tricky board

    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.04.2009 Posts: 7,755
      $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Holdem
      CakePoker
      9 Players


      Stacks:
      UTG ($3.70)
      UTG+1 ($29.51)
      Hero ($20.98)
      MP2 ($12.14)
      MP3 ($19.70)
      CO ($12)
      BTN ($17.63)
      SB ($10.30)
      BB ($23.60)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 9 players) Hero is MP1 5 5
      2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB checks

      Flop: 5 K J ($0.70, 3 players)
      BB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, BTN raises to $0.70, BB calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

      Turn: J ($2.80, 3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, BTN calls $1.80, BB folds

      River: Q ($6.40, 2 players)
      Hero bets $4, BTN raises to $10, Hero raises to $16


      That raise on the river is a bit strange. What can he hold here?

      Villain limps Preflop, so he has something in the range of pp, JQ,KQ,JK,KQ, JT,KT,QTand probably suited connectors.

      On the Flop he raises a bet and a caller, that means he must have a made hand or he is bluffing ip.

      The check on the Turn, means that he was bluffing and is ready to give up, he has a draw, or a strong made hand and it's slowplaying.


      I don't see myself not betting the River with a Full House, but can I fold to a raise here? Or can I just call?

      I think that here JA, JT would pay us.


      What's the best line here? Does his hand scream JQ, JK? Or can I be payed off many times profitable here?
  • 5 replies
    • AninIII
      AninIII
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      Hi,

      he most probably has QJ or maybe even KJ here.
      Sometimes villain overplays his AJ, maybe JT.
      But I don't like your call on flop after the minraise.
      You have a set and obviously TWO players show interest in getting the pot.
      You still have to protect your hand from QT or KJ f.e.
      So raise it up to 2.50-3.00$.
      As played bet 2.25$ on turn.
      The river card sucks, so maybe check/call is better.

      Let's see what the judges think.

      Best regards,
      Anin
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I prefer raising pf
      I think you have nuts on the flop, so you should get all your money all-in, meaning re-raising to 3$ on the flop and shoving if you face another re-raise
      You can bet a little more on the turn, since likely Jx/Kx would call
      River I´d just b/c. There is high % that villain holds KJ/QJ and you don´t have best hand any more
    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.04.2009 Posts: 7,755
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I prefer raising pf
      I think you have nuts on the flop, so you should get all your money all-in, meaning re-raising to 3$ on the flop and shoving if you face another re-raise
      Open raising 55 MP1? So I start to OR every pp mp+?


      I have the nuts on the Flop, but re-raising wouldn't scare weaker hands that would pay me otherwise?



      You can bet a little more on the turn, since likely Jx/Kx would call
      River I´d just b/c. There is high % that villain holds KJ/QJ and you don´t have best hand any more
      Noted! :s_biggrin:
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,779
      I don't think you need to be openraising every low PP from MP1+. I prefer a frequency of 60% raises and 40% limps.

      Raise it on the flop. Bottom set on this board should be fastplayed, you want to get your money in as early as possible. Easy b/c on the river
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Gabinr1
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I prefer raising pf
      I think you have nuts on the flop, so you should get all your money all-in, meaning re-raising to 3$ on the flop and shoving if you face another re-raise
      Open raising 55 MP1? So I start to OR every pp mp+?


      I have the nuts on the Flop, but re-raising wouldn't scare weaker hands that would pay me otherwise?



      You can bet a little more on the turn, since likely Jx/Kx would call
      River I´d just b/c. There is high % that villain holds KJ/QJ and you don´t have best hand any more
      Noted! :s_biggrin:
      I would raise first in any pp, since if you limp/call then players can always put you on set if you going to c/r even on drawy boards

      Once he min-raise I doubt he is folding to 3-bet on the flop. So hes hand range should remain the same even if you re-raise on the flop