Hand evaluation live on 22.12 - please post now

  • 16 replies
    • wilcos
      wilcos
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.12.2009 Posts: 8
      Ok, so the other day i was playing at pacific poker, 1cent and2 cent blinds and got KK preflop, a guy raised before me to 4cents and i reraised up to 10 cents, everyone folded back to him who calls. The flop comes j 9 4 all of them off suited, the guy bets 10cents and i decide to go all in. He shows his hand and he has pair of fours which means he has tree of a kind. Turn comes K, making me almost surely win. And river comes 4 again making a 4 of a kind for him and making me lose about 2.5 dollars.

      Did i play this incorrectly or just got a very very bad beat? ?(
    • Nussknacker
      Nussknacker
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      Joined: 05.04.2006 Posts: 16,276
      plz use a hand-converter:

      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-hand-converter/

      and post the HH in this Thread. We gonna evaluate the hands on given date.
    • Bordito
      Bordito
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $63.25
      BB:
      $58.25
      MP2:
      $51.25
      MP3:
      $8.65
      CO:
      $50.00
      BU(Hero):
      $55.70


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 8, 8.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB folds, BB raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3.75.

      Flop: ($11.25) 2, 2, 3 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($11.25) 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $7.00, BB raises to $18.00, Hero calls $11.00.

      River: ($47.25) 5 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      Final Pot: $47.25.

      Opp: 17/15/5.3/31 3bet 5.7 284 hands


      I think he was defending a lot this session or 3betting a lot in general, so I call preflop. I dont like betting the flop cause he could be easy check/raising overpairs. On The turn Im probably always good, so I like to protect my hand against overcards. His check/raise is something that really burned my soul because I couldnt evaluate it. Ive never seen that before on NL50 and because I dont think a reg like him would check an overpair 2 times I was calling to see the river. What do u think and what do u do against a bet on the river?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
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      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $186.40
      MP3:
      $135.20
      CO(Hero):
      $100.00
      BU:
      $17.00
      SB:
      $60.50


      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50.

      Flop: ($7.5) 2, Q, 2 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB calls $5.50.

      Turn: ($18.5) T (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $14.00, BB calls $14.00.

      River: ($46.5) 3 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $26.00, BB raises to $79.00, Hero calls $51.00(All-In).

      Final Pot: $202.5.

      Opp: Unknown


      Its a standard play until he finally decides to check/raise the river :D . Do u think I can fold? I called cause I already have so much money in the pot and maybe thought he could check/raise QT, but now I dont think he ever has something worse than trips, more often a Fullhouse. So hero fold or standard fold for you?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
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      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $59.50
      SB(Hero):
      $50.75
      BB:
      $73.65
      MP3:
      $50.00
      CO:
      $50.75


      Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
      MP3 folds, CO raises to $1.50, BU raises to $4.00, Hero calls $3.75, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($10) 3, K, J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      Turn: ($10) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.10, BU raises to $15.00, Hero raises to $46.75, BU calls $31.75.

      River: ($103.5) 3 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $103.5.

      Opp: BU 19/16/2.3/25 3.3 3bet 651 hands
      SB Unknown


      Im currently practising with this 3bet overcalls with monsters, because I think the Openraiser would like to ship sth like AQ/JJ or even more against it as a defend isnt the strongest 3bet and an overcall is like always a pocketpair or maybe AQ. Also people really are afraid of me 4betting there, which is why i 4bet hands like AQ/JJ there when the 3better isnt to tight, what do u think? I also think postflop it isnt too difficult to play AA/KK postflop in the sandwich position(or how this is called, I like to call it sandwich :D ).

      On the flop I think checking is better than betting, because there arent sooo many draws Im afraid of and I dont get 3bets from hands like QQ that would call the flop, AA would be betting themselves I suppose.
    • Bordito
      Bordito
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      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      CO(Hero):
      $69.65
      BU:
      $50.45
      SB:
      $53.95
      BB:
      $62.90
      MP3:
      $51.20


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 5.
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, BU calls $1.75, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($4.25) 5, 3, 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BU calls $3.00.

      Turn: ($10.25) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.00, BU calls $7.00.

      River: ($24.25) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $21.00, BU raises to $38.70(All-In), Hero calls $17.70.

      Final Pot: $101.65.

      Opp: 18/9/0.2/60 44 hands


      Flop/turn standard. River Im not sure how big my bet should be, I decided to bet big to get $$$ from nutflushdraws and maybe some pockets like TT if hes loose. I dont expect to get a bigger bet from a 7, which also isnt often in his c-range preflop. How big to u bet?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
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      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $50.00
      MP3(Hero):
      $86.90
      CO:
      $75.40
      BU:
      $9.25
      SB:
      $51.00
      BB:
      $50.75


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, A.
      MP2 raises to $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, 4 folds.

      Flop: ($4.75) 4, 3, Q (2 players)
      MP2 bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50.

      Turn: ($11.75) 6 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $8.35, MP2 calls $8.35.

      River: ($28.45) 9 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP2 raises to $36.15(All-In), Hero calls $26.65.

      Final Pot: $100.75.

      Opp: 13/10/10.5/24 317 hands

      I really dont know what he could have, if he has a flush, hed always have at least a FD+1 overcard on the turn which hed 2nd barrel.
    • Volrath89
      Volrath89
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 2,170
      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      9 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      Hero ($54.60)
      UTG+1 ($30.25)
      MP1 ($50)
      MP2 ($30)
      MP3 ($90.55)
      CO ($57.75) 15/6/6.7/36/330 (VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands)
      BTN ($49.25)
      SB ($56.90)
      BB ($52.90)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 9 players) Hero is UTG A:heart: K:heart:
      Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, 2 folds

      Flop: 6:heart: K:spade: A:diamond: ($8.75, 4 players)
      Hero bets $5, 1 fold, CO raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $5

      Turn: 7:spade: ($28.75, 2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero calls $16

      River: J:heart: ($60.75, 2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $29.75, Hero calls $26.60


      Is there any other hand except 66 that would min raise that flop in a 4-way pot??

      I thought folding on any street to be to weak.. but now I think I should've folded anywhere (maybe on the turn)
    • Volrath89
      Volrath89
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 2,170
      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      Hero ($55.72)
      UTG+1 ($9.25)
      CO ($54.92) 27/18/1.2/14/165 (VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands)
      BTN ($54.31)
      SB ($68.34)
      BB ($53.08)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG K:spade: K:heart:
      Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, CO raises to $5, 3 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, CO calls $7.50

      Flop: 4:diamond: 8:spade: A:spade: ($25.75, 2 players)
      Hero ???


      What to do on that flop?. I don't like bet/fold because I'd be spending too much % of my stack just to fold, neither bet/call since I don't see any worse hand raising or calling here. But by checking OOP I don't think I can go to the SD for free, so what to do? or how to avoid this though situation?
    • Volrath89
      Volrath89
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 2,170
      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      8 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($27.45)
      UTG+1 ($71.30)
      MP1 ($42.45) 28/4/2.5/24/156
      MP2 ($50)
      Hero ($84.05)
      BTN ($50)
      SB ($19.65) 47/2/5.6/29/99
      BB ($83.65)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 8 players) Hero is CO K:diamond: A:heart:
      2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, SB calls $2.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2

      Flop: 10:spade: Q:spade: J:spade: ($8, 3 players)
      SB checks, MP1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $7, MP1 goes all-in $39.95, Hero ???
    • HoofdVogel
      HoofdVogel
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.01.2008 Posts: 3,193
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $114,10
      Hero:
      $103,90

      0,5/1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J:heart: , T:heart:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $3,00, 3 folds, BB calls $2,00.

      Flop: ($6,50) J:spade: , 8:club: , 7:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $5,00, BB raises to $10,00, Hero calls $5,00.

      Turn: ($26,50) 4:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $13,00, Hero calls $13,00.

      River: ($52,50) K:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $16,00, Hero raises to $77,90 (All-In),

      no reads or notes on him, only stats

      strange c/minr @ flop (nuts/draw/air?)
      low bet on turn (he doesn‘t seem happy with this card?)
      looks like an obv. blockbet on this board
    • MathhNes
      MathhNes
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.08.2009 Posts: 953
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Known players:
      SB:
      $36.72
      BB:
      $25.13
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO(Hero):
      $26.94
      BU:
      $31.15

      Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T.
      MP3 raises to $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.50, MP3 folds, Hero calls $3.50.

      Flop: ($10.1) 9, 4, 4 (2 players)
      BB bets $5.05, Hero raises to $22.44(All-In), BB calls $15.58.

      Turn: ($53.17) K (2 players)

      River: ($53.17) 7 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $53.17.


      Plays 14/8/4 Vpip, PFR, 3bet. Do i call preflop?. Do i call or shove on the flop? Can i call flop fold turn in case i call flop? What about 3 betting preflop against the original PFA?
    • KidPokersKid
      KidPokersKid
      Global
      Joined: 27.02.2009 Posts: 653
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($90.94)
      Hero ($60.44)
      UTG ($89.07)
      CO ($24.74)
      BTN ($44.54)

      Dealt to Hero 6:spade: 4:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

      FLOP ($0.50) T:club: 6:diamond: 4:spade:

      SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.25

      TURN ($4) T:club: 6:diamond: 4:spade: J:spade:

      SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

      RIVER ($12) T:club: 6:diamond: 4:spade: J:spade: 4:club:

      SB bets $6, Hero raises to $14.65, SB calls $8.65


      He was 44/6 over 100 hands, but he seems somewhat aggresive and like to bet pretty big from what I had seen.
    • dnochar
      dnochar
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.11.2008 Posts: 60
      Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
      The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

      SB: $70.45
      BB: $73.00
      Hero (UTG): $51.35
      MP: $60.95
      CO: $40.00
      BTN: $50.00

      CO posts a big blind ($0.50)

      Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is UTG with J:heart: J:spade:
      Hero raises to $2.50, 4 folds, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $4.50

      Flop: ($14.75) 2:spade: 6:club: 6:spade: (2 players)
      BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

      Turn: ($34.75) 5:spade: (2 players)
      BB requests TIME, BB bets $18, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
    • 4A888
      4A888
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2007 Posts: 916
      HU

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($64.05)
      ($43.30)

      Dealt to Hero 9:spade: T:diamond:

      raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, calls $3.50

      FLOP ($10) Q:diamond: 3:diamond: J:diamond:

      Hero bets $6, raises to $15, Hero ?

      One of the first hands vs villain. 3b to get an aggr. image.
      I think i have to go broke here. What do you think?

      Needed Eq. around 40%.

      Board: Qd Jd 3d

      Wins Ties Equity
      41.51% 0.10% 41.60% ( Td9s )
      58.30% 0.10% 58.40% ( AA-JJ,33,QJ,AQ,KQ,AdJ,KT,9d4d,Ad9d )
    • roswellx
      roswellx
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.12.2008 Posts: 599
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Merge
      SB ($25)
      BB ($27.23)
      UTG ($33.85)
      Hero ($25.58)
      CO ($40.49)
      BTN ($29.13)

      Dealt to Hero 8:diamond: 8:heart:

      UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1

      FLOP ($2.85) 2:diamond: 5:spade: 2:spade:

      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.90, UTG calls $1.90

      TURN ($6.65) 2:diamond: 5:spade: 2:spade: 2:club:

      UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4

      RIVER ($14.65) 2:diamond: 5:spade: 2:spade: 2:club: 8:spade:

      Opponent (whale) -> 71/12/2.2

      What are your opinions about this hand ?