could someone explaine ?

    • jachis
      jachis
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 745
      i read a thread it 2+2 about this hand and I couldn't understand why everyone advised him to check the river and told him that hes check on the turn was also good play ?
      comments on all streets please...not sure how active villain has been but i know he hasn't been really tight, i remember seeing him in a couple preflop pots recently

      Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 9 players
      The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

      SB: t25095 M = 9.56
      BB: t33252 M = 12.67
      Hero (UTG): t52722 M = 20.08
      UTG+1: t31157 M = 11.87
      UTG+2: t12135 M = 4.62
      MP1: t10330 M = 3.94
      MP2: t32050 M = 12.21
      CO: t58196 M = 22.17
      BTN: t82967 M = 31.61

      Pre Flop: (t2625) Hero is UTG with Kc Qc
      Hero raises to t3000, 4 folds, CO raises to t6000, 3 folds, Hero calls t3000

      Flop: (t14625) 6h Kd 3d (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      Turn: (t14625) 2s (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets t8000, [color=red]Hero ?
  • 2 replies
    • spit22
      spit22
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.11.2008 Posts: 309
      if you don't know how to play this , don't raise utg with KQs.. bet/fold turn . He won't raise you with anything worse at that spot unless there is previous history or he is maniac or something.

      as played call turn , you are in a tough spot but you are inducing a lot of bluffs so you have to call the river bet as well.
    • TheRebuz
      TheRebuz
      Platinum
      Joined: 12.10.2008 Posts: 2,078
      [quote]Originally posted by jachis
      .....everyone advised him to check the river and told him that hes check on the turn ....
      Pre Flop: (t2625) Hero is UTG with Kc Qc
      Hero raises to t3000, 4 folds, CO raises to t6000, 3 folds, Hero calls t3000

      Flop: (t14625) 6h Kd 3d (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      Turn: (t14625) 2s (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets t8000, [color=red]Hero ?[/quote]what river??

      utg open raise usualy should be with tight range, lets say if ur r on the (very) loose side AJs+, AQ+, KQs, 88+, so if some1 reraise ur tight open raising range-> using gap concept -> he would have range if he is loose AQs+, AK, TT+
      ....so when u open raise with KQs and some1 reraise u ur behind in 80%+++ of time ur fliping 15%+++ of time and something like less 5% of time ur 40/60 undredog (if guy is very loose and he will reraise u with AJs ATs ) so when u got reraised is beter just to fold preflop.

      from hand history that u post
      imo
      #1 playing that hand preflop with M20 is very very bad
      #2 caling a reraise preflop with that stack is even worse
      #3 he hit that flop, thats lets say is like dream flop for him ih he is calling with KQ so i dont like to check flop, if i check flop im donking turn for sure and folding if i got raised (im cheking flop, and cheking turn if i give up -> and i'm folding, no way im cheking flop and check/caling turn)

      so lets resume -> u dont want to be that guy with KQ, whn u got KQ utg with M20-> open fold
      if ur open raising that hand there are 2 variants
      #1 ur raising to steal blinds
      #2 u raise some 1 call -> u got to Cbet ANY FLOP 2/3 pot, maybe even 2 barrel good turn oop
      #2a u raise SB or BB call -> u got to Cbet ANY FLOP 2/3 pot, maybe even 2 barrel good turn ip
      if u got rereaise just fold, no shame in folding
      BTW and 1 more thing when u raise first in u should ALWAYS AT THAT BLIND LEVEL go for open raise 2,5-2,6 bb (3xbb is too much) that way u'll invest less money and ur Cbet will be smaler