[NL2-NL10] Nl5 AQo

    • amplifyd
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 1,769
      Should I raise when he donked into me? Also what does a donkbet normally represent - is it sort of either a set or just a piece of board but they want to "see where they are"

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 5 folds, UTG2 calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($0.55) T, 3, 5 (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60.

      Turn: ($1.75) 2 (2 players)
      UTG2 checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($1.75) 6 (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $1.25, Hero raises to $9.53, UTG2 calls $2.55.

      Final Pot: $15.08.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a flush, ace high(Q A).
      UTG2 shows three of a kind, twos(2 2).

      Hero wins with a flush, ace high(Q A).
  • 1 reply
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      With AQ with the backdoor nutflush draw you can go both ways on the flop. You have showdown value with AQ-high, you have equity with 2 overs and some backdoors, raising and calling are both fine against an unknown since you don't know if he's even capable on bluffing on the flop, to say nothing of how likely he is to continue to bluff on later streets and with what.

      As for donkbets in general, from bad players they're more often marginal made hands or whiffed overcards that they just don't want to check/fold with, so they donk instead. Raise them, they're folding better hands and sometimes they're even calling with worse, even if they call with better you usually have your overcards + backdoors outs.

      From solid tags they're mostly sets and big draws, sometimes top pairs when the board is ugly and they don't want you to check back. Don't raise them especially if it's multiway or SBvsUTG where your range is supposed to be strong, you'll get 3bet/shoved on a lot.

      From good tags you might see sometimes and will definitely see at higher stakes, they're sometimes well balanced air/gutshots/top pairs/two pairs/sets/OESD/flushdraws ranges, which makes it a pain in the ass to deal with : > At this point it's more a question of adapting your own ranges/frequencies, sometimes making stands with a marginal top pair for metagame, to make sure you're not getting exploited too much in the long run.

      Hope it helps.