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Nl50 Qq

    • EdgarAronov
      EdgarAronov
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 142
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      ($85.79)
      Hero ($91.25)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: Q:heart:

      Hero raises to $1.50, raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8, calls $5.50

      FLOP ($16) 5:club: 2:diamond: 4:spade:

      checks, Hero bets $8, calls $8

      TURN ($32) 5:club: 2:diamond: 4:spade: 6:diamond:

      checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($32) 5:club: 2:diamond: 4:spade: 6:diamond: T:spade:

      bets $69.79 (AI), Hero ????

      I made the 1/2 cbet to get a raise from him, I always cbeted 1/2 about 80% of the times to disguise my hand, if I did not get anything I will not lose a lot and if i hit big then if he raises i will win a lot

      but now the river action, he raised me preflop, now yes, he could had 33 but really would he raise me pf with 33? also there is a missed flushdraw so the river push can also be a bluff
  • 6 replies
    • GunFlavoured
      GunFlavoured
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      Joined: 19.10.2008 Posts: 626
      I'm sure this will be moved to the hand evaluation section but thats ok. Anyway, I bet the turn. I don't think there is anyrhing to suggest a busted flush draw and if villian has a 3 I don't think he's shoving here. I call the river but I don't know if I like it or not.
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
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      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      bet bigger on the flop.

      bet the turn and then the call on the river is much easier
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      Some info on villain is always helpful. ;)

      But IMO:

      Since he min3bet you preflop he's very likely to be a fish, soooooo vs fish you will never bluff 4bet which means that you don't need to make your 4bet so small esp with these stack sizes. Make it ~12$ or so.

      Flop, again your stack to pot ratio is pretty big and id just bet big as well like in a single raise pot, no need to balance here etc.

      As played i fold river without some good read or "feel", when he overbets you need to be good veeeery often and your hand is a bluffcacher.
    • EdgarAronov
      EdgarAronov
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 142
      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Some info on villain is always helpful. ;)

      But IMO:

      Since he min3bet you preflop he's very likely to be a fish, soooooo vs fish you will never bluff 4bet which means that you don't need to make your 4bet so small esp with these stack sizes. Make it ~12$ or so.

      Flop, again your stack to pot ratio is pretty big and id just bet big as well like in a single raise pot, no need to balance here etc.

      As played i fold river without some good read or "feel", when he overbets you need to be good veeeery often and your hand is a bluffcacher.
      About info. Nothing personal about him, avarage minraise fish. He got tilted by my BU raises and started to minraise me most of the times.

      since I did not want to belive that he had a 3, I called him down and yes, he had the f*cking 3 :f_eek: :f_eek:
      but I got the money back in no time.


      ty
    • spit22
      spit22
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      Joined: 03.11.2008 Posts: 309
      i would bet turn and give up if he raises. also 4bet more
    • HannesNL
      HannesNL
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      Joined: 18.11.2008 Posts: 4,590
      4bet more, like $10-12

      If it is a fish I would just pot the flop, a 6,A, 3 or K will destroy the action/equity.

      Get it in asap. If if is a fish he will call you down with any pair