[NL20-NL50] NL25SH: QJs on a draw, can I call turn?

    • immot
      Joined: 11.05.2007 Posts: 153
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($33.35)
      BB ($29.80)
      UTG ($13.85)
      UTG+1 ($25)
      CO ($23.45)
      Hero ($25)

      Dealt to Hero J:spade: Q:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BB calls $0.50

      FLOP ($1.60) 3:spade: 8:heart: 2:spade:

      BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.70, BB raises to $4.65, Hero calls $1.95

      TURN ($10.90) 3:spade: 8:heart: 2:spade: 5:heart:

      BB bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25

      RIVER ($23.40) 3:spade: 8:heart: 2:spade: 5:heart: 4:diamond:

      BB checks, Hero checks

      Opponent 38/20/2.5 doesnt like to fold BB, do I get good odds to call turn (2.74:1, and opponent will have 2 pairs, sets maybe draws, airs here)?
  • 3 replies
    • delete461
      Joined: 04.07.2008 Posts: 1,036
      To call $6.25 with flushdraw (4:1) you need implied return of $25.
      There is ~ $15 in the pot (rake deducted) so you need another $10 on the river.
      You have position and villains line on the flop and turn is so strong he is nearly certain to invest another $10 or more on the river, so calling is ok imo.
    • Alan883
      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      I think streight has much much more implied value. Since such callers almost every time indicates flush draw our flushes does not have much implied odds so we need to be carefull i think with implied odds when it comes to the flushdraw.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think call is fine, since you can also sometimes won the hand if you improve to Q or J or if he has some other type worse flushdraw, like T9ss