Short Stack Strategy Evaluation Hand Please!!

    • pablonbd
      pablonbd
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2008 Posts: 2
      HI IM PABLONBD AT THE TABLE
      THIS IS MY HAND


      Transcript for your last 1 games requested by pablonbd (pablonbd@msn.com)

      *********** # 1 **************
      PokerStars Game #38170096551: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2010/01/14 18:09:47 ET
      Table 'Oriola III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
      Seat 1: kenny24yil ($6.25 in chips)
      Seat 3: callmethenut ($1.90 in chips)
      Seat 4: LIMBO pub ($2.35 in chips)
      Seat 5: mleezy ($9.40 in chips)
      Seat 6: pablonbd ($1.85 in chips)
      Seat 7: JeffersonWd ($12.45 in chips)
      Seat 8: alexfilho77 ($7.60 in chips)
      TTOLSTOSUMM will be allowed to play after the button
      kenny24yil: posts small blind $0.05
      callmethenut: posts big blind $0.10
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to pablonbd [Ah Kh]
      LIMBO pub: calls $0.10
      mleezy: folds
      pablonbd: raises $0.40 to $0.50
      JeffersonWd: folds
      alexfilho77: folds
      kenny24yil: folds
      szabokarlo leaves the table
      callmethenut: folds
      LIMBO pub: calls $0.40
      *** FLOP *** [2s 8c 4c]
      LIMBO pub: checks
      pablonbd: bets $0.50
      LIMBO pub: calls $0.50
      *** TURN *** [2s 8c 4c] [6d]
      sarthie35 joins the table at seat #2
      LIMBO pub: bets $1.35 and is all-in
      TTOLSTOSUMM leaves the table
      pablonbd said, "wtf"
      pablonbd: calls $0.85 and is all-in
      Uncalled bet ($0.50) returned to LIMBO pub
      *** RIVER *** [2s 8c 4c 6d] [Jh]
      *** SHOW DOWN ***
      LIMBO pub: shows [Ks 4s] (a pair of Fours)
      pablonbd: shows [Ah Kh] (high card Ace)
      LIMBO pub collected $3.70 from pot
      *** SUMMARY ***
      Total pot $3.85 | Rake $0.15



      I KNOW I SHOULDNT HAVE CALLED HIS ALL IN
      BUT I KINDA FELT POT COMMITED
      PLEASE DONT BE MEAN WITH ME xD

      MY QUESTION HERE ITS
      IN SSS THEY SAY THAT IF YOU ARE AGAINST ONE OPPONENT
      AND YOU DIDNT HIT THE FLOP YOU SHOULD TRY ONE BLUFF
      BUT THEY NEVER SAY HOW BIG THE BLUFF SHOULD BE

      FOR EXAMPLE AFTER THE FLOP THE POT WAS +1.00
      WITH HOW MUCH SHOULD I BLUFF?
      2/3 OF THE POT WERE LIKE .70
      THAT LOOKED VERY EXCESIVE TO ME SO I BET .50
      ??

      HOW MUCH SHOULD I HAVE RAISED TO BLUFF IN THE FLOP?

      AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF POT COMMITED?

      THANKS
  • 1 reply
    • xarry2
      xarry2
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 834
      Hi pablond,

      usually 2/3 potsize is a decent betsize for continuationbetting. its important btw that you chose the same sizes for your bluff cbets and cbets with made hands - otherwise opponents could get a read on you.
      often there are spots where you can differ from the 2/3 potsizebet. On dry, heads up boards 50-60% potsize is mostly enough since there aren't many draws out to protect from or in case you're bluffing its less likely your opponent has hit something on a dry board so you also need to bet less to make him fold.

      well, wether you are commited or not depends on the pot odds and the chances you give your hand to be the best hand/improve on later streets.

      in your sample hand my reasoning would be the following:

      turnpotsize:
      2$ (from flop and turn) + 0.85$ (which is the effective money villain bets into you) => 2.85$
      you have to call 0.85$, thus the pot odds are 2.85$:0.85$ = 3.35:1
      you can calculate this into your minimum winning chances by simply buidling the sum 3.35 + 1 and then building the reciprocal value

      1/4.35 =~23%

      this means you can call profitably (or you are commited) if you think that you can win the hand in more than 23%. against a single pair you have around 13% equity (winning chances) left due to your 6 outs. for getting this equity you can use the equilator for example and fill in all the known cards.
      what does this tell you now? you need 23% but only have 13% against a onepaired hand which is still the bottom of your opponents range. he could still have 2 pair, sets, ect... Thus unless you aren't sure! your opponent bluffs a lot here with worse hands than yours you are not commited in this spot and should fold to the turnall in.
      I know its hard to give up since 0.85$ doesn't look like its much into a 2.85$ pot. however you just have one card left to help you and not many outs.

      if you practice such calculations and work with the equilator you will get experienced in these spots very quickly.

      best regards,
      xarry