[NL20-NL50] Nl50 Fr: Kk

    • Jackalof
      Jackalof
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      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 1,462
      $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
      9 Players
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($303.25)
      UTG+1 ($53.65)
      MP1 ($39.50)
      MP2 ($42.10)
      Hero ($50)
      CO ($95.20)
      BTN ($42)
      SB ($75.75)
      BB ($36.55)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 9 players) Hero is MP3 K:spade: K:heart:
      UTG raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 4 folds, UTG calls $3

      Flop: 8:spade: 10:club: 5:spade: ($9.75, 2 players)
      UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

      Turn: 7:heart: ($21.75, 2 players)
      UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

      River: 8:diamond: ($49.75, 2 players)
      UTG goes all-in $278.75, Hero goes all-in $25.50

      I'm fish in NLHE, so teach me :f_p: Should I consider folding this on any street? No reads on villain.
  • 4 replies
    • AninIII
      AninIII
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      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944
      Hi,

      depends on the villain.
      But considering this drawy flop, I'd just reraise his donk to 19$ and call a shove. If he has a set or AA it's just a cooler.
      What did he have?

      Best regards,
      Anin
    • caltabiano
      caltabiano
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      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      Originally posted by AninIII
      Hi,

      depends on the villain.
      But considering this drawy flop, I'd just reraise his donk to 19$ and call a shove. If he has a set or AA it's just a cooler.
      What did he have?

      Best regards,
      Anin
      This.

      Just raise it and put the monies in! Seeing the turn can be disastrous for a couple of reasons:

      - He could have a bunch of draws that will gladly put a stack in on the flop, but not on the turn. Not counting that you're giving him a cheap turn card to draw out on you.
      - He could have something like AT which will get scared on many turn cards and might be less willing to put money in

      I'd just make it something like $25 - $26 and snap a shove.

      As a general rule: 3b pot + 100bb deep + strong overpair = nuts!

      But I understand you... you were probably afraid that he could have one of those "set + 2 pair + FD + OESD + overpair + back door royal flush" that you see so often in PLO right? :f_biggrin:


      Oh yeah, I just rememebered another cool thing to consider. If villain is a fish, he'll be superwilling to put money in with very marginal holdings, because he has a huge stack. Fish are a lot more willing to spend they're money when they have a lot spare ;)
    • Jackalof
      Jackalof
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      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 1,462
      But I understand you... you were probably afraid that he could have one of those "set + 2 pair + FD + OESD + overpair + back door royal flush" that you see so often in PLO right?


      Haha, that's exactly my thinking :f_p: Major leak.

      Thank you for the input, both, very nice insights, I need to alter my thinking. Very good advice.
    • flopraiser
      flopraiser
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      Joined: 30.01.2009 Posts: 202
      Having 6 BI at the table its either been a very lucky session or prob in my opinion a loose agressive character pushing the table around, I would def try getting the money in here on the flop.