[NL20-NL50] NL50 fr big hands - big decisions preflop

    • Homart
      Homart
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.03.2009 Posts: 82
      Hi, I've got some situations where I am not sure if moving all-in is the right decision. I hope it's ok to put all 3 hands in one thread. Thanks for response.


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $54,10
      UTG2:
      $68,75
      Hero:
      $50,00
      CO:
      $32,55

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A:heart: , K:diamond:
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0,50, Hero raises to $2,50, 2 folds, CO calls $2,50, BU folds, SB raises to $15,00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $50,00 (All-In), CO folds, SB calls $35,00.

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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG1:
      $50,75
      Hero:
      $118,40
      MP2:
      $39,70

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A:diamond: , K:diamond:
      UTG1 raises to $2,00, UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $6,00, MP2 raises to $16,00, 6 folds, Hero raises to $46,75, MP2 calls $23,70 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG2:
      $82,60
      Hero:
      $90,40

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:spade: , K:heart:
      UTG2 raises to $1,75, Hero raises to $6,00, 6 folds, UTG2 raises to $17,00, Hero raises to $90,40 (All-In), UTG2 calls $65,60 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.
  • 5 replies
    • LePokerMonster
      LePokerMonster
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.11.2008 Posts: 74
      AK all-ins are the dumbest play I've seen. They are monsters but you never will get called by worse. Either KK or AA will call you or you will be in coin flip against 22-QQ. 2% of the time you push maybe you're ahead.

      KK is standart shove. if opponent has AA it's just a cooler.
    • Gabinr1
      Gabinr1
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.04.2009 Posts: 7,755
      1. That seems like a squeez. I would just call and play flop in position. If I hit I'm shoving over his c-bet. Or betting in case he checks. And folding if no A or K comes. (depends on the board - if it's a dry Flop you could just call the c-bet and bet/shove turn)


      2. I would just fold to MP2s 4bet. You can't call because you are out of position and shouldn't go all in with AKs because it's to weak for that. KK,AA have you dominated, against AK you split and against every pair 22-QQ it's a coin-flip.


      3. Here, I would just play for pot control, because of the 160BB stacks. Call 4-bet and reevaluate postflop, in my opinion.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      1) I´d also shove. Sb could easily squeezing with worse ahnds and a lot of dead money in the pot.
      2) Easy shove against middlestack. Even if he has KK/AA, you´re only risking 80bb
      3) if you and utg have been at 3-bet wars then shoving over his 4-bet is fine. He can easily 4-bet/call shove with JJ+/AK
    • Homart
      Homart
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.03.2009 Posts: 82
      Thanks for your responses. I see that you have different views to this spots.

      1) I don't think it is dumb play. This looked like to me, that he didn't want to play his hand oop (AK?) I was really not sure what to do. Is he folding AK to my shove? If he has AA/KK then i just cannot win the pot too often, or if he has KK and A comes on the flop I get no value. QQ is a coinflip and I think he could fold QQ.
      (he had KK and I got my A :f_biggrin: )

      2) Now I see this is an easy spot against 27/18 midstack oop.
      (he had AKo - splitpot)

      3) We had no 3-bet wars before, so is the 4-bet shove still ok? I think he can call me only with AA.
      (he had AA - K on the flop :f_biggrin: )
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      3) shove with KK is fine, but you can also call ip, since that would keep in all his TT-QQ that he might fold to shove and then get all-in on low boards.