[NL2-NL10] SSS FR NL25 - AK on a paired board

    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed)

      UTG+1 ($11.30)
      MP1 ($11.95)
      MP2 ($36.15)
      CO ($20.75)
      Button ($36.55)
      Hero ($5.75)
      BB ($25.65)
      UTG ($24.15)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:club: , K:club: .
      [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#CC3333]MP1 raises to $0.5[/color], MP2 calls $0.50, [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#CC3333]Hero raises to $2[/color], [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], MP1 calls $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($6.25) 9:heart: , 8:club: , 9:diamond: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#CC3333]MP1 bets $3.75[/color], MP2 folds, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $6.25

      Out of position vs 2...check/fold? Or should I have c-bet or check/called since the pot was so big? Should I have raised more (maybe $2.50) pre-flop to make post-flop decisions easier and maybe get a bit more fold equity pre-flop?

      Thanks,
      Kknight
  • 8 replies
    • howard182
      howard182
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      You're getting nearly 4:1 on an all in against one opponent and usually (a pocket pair) have 6 outs if you're behind. You also will get calls from OESDs, which can't fold here but you're ahead of them. You are committed, make your all in continuation bet, you may even get a small pocket pair (which shouldn't've been here in the first place) to fold. You may also get a call from any overcards.
    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      Except that I'm not up against one opponent but two (one of which was a pre-flop raiser (albeit a minraise) and one who cold-called twice...does the advice still stand with that being the case? Thanks howard.

      Kknight
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Hi Kknight!

      I would put both of them on a pocket pair and I doubt that both of them fold to an all-in continuation bet here. So check/fold is fine imo.
      Your reraise preflop is fine, too (3 times the preflopraise plus 1 time for the caller = 4 times the preflopraiser).

      Nice hand!

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • howard182
      howard182
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      If they're both on a pocket pair and both call, we get the best of it by pushing here. (Against two JJ-22 we have just under 28% equity. Against one, we even have 34%, which is more than I estimated. We're only in trouble if a _lot_ of 9s get here from both opponents, which is unlikely.)

      This is a very easy shove.
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Oh yes...you are right. Should have made some equilator calculations before. Don't forget that MP1 might try to trap us with a very good hand (his minraise indicates a very strong or a very weak hand) so I would put his hand range on AA-22. But even then we have an equity of 31%. Against two opponents our equity is 27% which is also enough for a shove.

      Sorry for the confusion.

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      OK, so the consensus is shove? And that is based mostly on pot odds/equity? Is it check/raise all-in, or just all-in c-bet?

      Thanks,
      Kknight
    • howard182
      howard182
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      All in c-bet, because you absolutely do not want it checked around, because there's a chance that both fold even if one has a low pocket pair and because you want an overcall, a second opponent doesn't hurt your equity much.

      (I originally forgot to count the 8s as possible outs. This is less appealing on a board like 992 where a 2 never counterfeits a small pair.)
    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      Originally posted by howard182
      All in c-bet, because you absolutely do not want it checked around, because there's a chance that both fold even if one has a low pocket pair and because you want an overcall, a second opponent doesn't hurt your equity much.

      (I originally forgot to count the 8s as possible outs. This is less appealing on a board like 992 where a 2 never counterfeits a small pair.)
      OK, I get it...thanks Howard.

      Kknight