[NL2-NL10] NL5: Flopping top set on low board

    • Mugge88
      Mugge88
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      Joined: 29.10.2006 Posts: 510
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      Position:
      Stack
      UTG:
      $5,29
      Hero:
      $5,88
      UTG+1:
      $4,94

      0,02/0,04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6:club: , 6:heart:
      UTG raises to $0,16, UTG+1 calls $0,16, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0,16, 6 folds.

      Flop: ($0,54) 5:heart: , 6:spade: , 3:diamond: (3 players)
      UTG bets $0,48, UTG+1 calls $0,48, Hero raises to $1,60, UTG raises to $2,72, UTG+1 raises to $4,78 (All-In), Hero raises to $5,72 (All-In), UTG raises to $5,13 (All-In).

      Turn: ($16,17) 9:club:
      River: ($16,17) 2:diamond:


      Final Pot: $16,17


      My question is the flop raise. Which amount is good to bet there, and how do you calculate what a psb would be?

      Best regards,
      Mugge
  • 6 replies
    • snowylee
      snowylee
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      Joined: 26.01.2007 Posts: 701
      If Im not mistaken you calculate it like this: potsize (0,54) + bet (0,48) + call (0,48) + what it takes for you to call x2(0,48 x2 = 0,96), so a potsized reraise would be $1,96 if Im not mistaken.
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Yup, you are right. $1.96 would be a potsize bet here.

      @ Mugge88: I would raise potsize here on the flop ($2) to protect my hand against straight draws. After you get reraised it's an easy all-in.

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • howard182
      howard182
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      Joined: 30.10.2006 Posts: 416
      With the caller, a pot size raise is $2.46 actually. Twice the bet plus the current pot size.

      (Current pot is $1.50, bet is $0.48. After your raise, the pot is $3.96 (well, minus rake, but we don't count that) and the bettor and/or caller has/have $1.98 to call. Which is half of $3.96, giving the same odds as a pot size bet to the first caller.)
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Yes, that's right. The formula was correct: pot size plus twice the amount you would have to call! But the calculation was wrong. Thanks, howard!

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • snowylee
      snowylee
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      Joined: 26.01.2007 Posts: 701
      Oh yeah, my bad ^^
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      Here is another one: :D
      From the article on preflop BSS, the raise should be actual pot size x2 + what you need to call ,which equals 1,50x2+0,48 = 3,48.


      Oops, I went to check and I´m wrong. Howard ´s formula is right :rolleyes: