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[NL20-NL50] NL50: valuebetting the river?

    • Zeffke
      Zeffke
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.04.2007 Posts: 1,123
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $55.30
      SB:
      $18.20
      BB(Hero):
      $50.00
      MP3:
      $20.45
      CO:
      $51.25


      Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, A.
      MP3 calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2.25, MP3 folds, SB calls $1.75.

      Flop: ($5) 3, T, A (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($5) 7 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB calls $3.25.

      River: ($11.5) Q (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $5.00, SB raises to $12.70(All-In), Hero calls $7.70.

      Final Pot: $36.9.


      Is my valuebet justified on the river? Villain is unknown. I can't fold against his shove right?
  • 5 replies
    • radyan111
      radyan111
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 1,151
      Why don't you cbet? My plan for this hand would be to bet flop, bet turn, cb river for two streets of value from lower aces or tens.
    • Zeffke
      Zeffke
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.04.2007 Posts: 1,123
      Since he was unknown and my kicker wasn't all that good, I prefer to check back flop and bet or call turnbet.
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      I wouldn't mind check back flop if he was a full stack. The whole point in checking back flop is to pot control and to prevent getting c/r and having to fold our equity in the hand.

      As you can see even though you check back flop you are still stacking off so we aren't afraid of a flop c/r really.

      So i c-bet call it off, as played i can't fold.
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      Originally posted by csnmf
      I wouldn't mind check back flop if he was a full stack. The whole point in checking back flop is to pot control and to prevent getting c/r and having to fold our equity in the hand.

      As you can see even though you check back flop you are still stacking off so we aren't afraid of a flop c/r really.

      So i c-bet call it off, as played i can't fold.
      I agree.

      Vs a 38bb player there is no reason to potcontrol. So just bet/bet/.. If he has a better kicker so be it.. you're not gonna fold either way.

      Vs a big stack I like a check back on flop very much on this dry board.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think A9 is good enough to play for his stack, so I´d c-bet flop, bet turn and shove river
      b/c river is fine