Hand Evaluation Coaching Silver 16.02 - Post here

    • Nussknacker
      Nussknacker
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.04.2006 Posts: 16,276
      Please post hands for the next coaching on 02.02.2010
      Add your own thoughts, questions and any further information you have towards your opponent.

      Your hands will be discussed during the coaching

      Kind regards

      Nussknacker
  • 6 replies
    • Malente
      Malente
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.04.2009 Posts: 2,479
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP3:
      $70,00
      Hero:
      $50,00

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:spade: , Q:diamond:
      MP3 raises to $2,00, CO folds, Hero calls $2,00, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($4,75) A:diamond: , 6:spade: , Q:club: (2 players)
      MP3 bets $3,25, Hero calls $3,25.

      Turn: ($11,25) 6:heart: (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($11,25) 5:heart: (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $6,00, MP3 raises to $23,00, Hero folds, MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $23,25

      Villain is a winning reg.

      I think the riverbet is bad. I will actually never bluff in there. I would have bluffed on the turn.
      So my riverbet is in 90% a valuebet. I think he knows that, therefore I wont even get a call from QJ...

      Do you think his c/r is a bluff or for value? His line makes actually no sense. Thus he can easily do that with AK or even AJ, because Im likely to call.
    • Malente
      Malente
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.04.2009 Posts: 2,479
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $50,00
      BU:
      $52,80

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:heart: , K:heart:
      3 folds, BU raises to $1,50, SB folds, Hero raises to $5,00, BU calls $3,50.

      Flop: ($10,25) J:club: , Q:diamond: , K:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6,00, BU calls $6,00.

      Turn: ($22,25) A:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $11,50, Hero folds, BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $22,25

      Same guy like the hand before.

      I alway cbet +-1/2 pot in rr pots against regs. No matter how the board structure is. You think thats a mistake?

      Flop: Do you even make a cbet?
      Turn: Other twopairs will probably checkbehind, and Tx will bet of course. I dont think he has many floats in his range. Therefore I play c/f.
    • Malente
      Malente
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.04.2009 Posts: 2,479
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $59,95
      Hero:
      $79,10

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:diamond: , 4:club:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1,25, SB calls $1,00, BB folds.

      Flop: ($3,00) 7:diamond: , Q:club: , 3:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1,50, SB raises to $4,50, Hero raises to $10,00,

      Final Pot: $12,00

      The only draws are two GS and so many people slowplay their set on this flop. Also many players c/c their queens, even AQ.
      Hence he is so often bluffing in this spot. In addition to the unlikly bluffed flop, it is BUvsSB.

      Is bluff3betting in here +EV?
    • Bordito
      Bordito
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.02.2007 Posts: 1,104
      Could u please discuss this hand at the end of the coaching as I wont be in the coaching player before 20.15(or write analysis via skype :) ).


      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Hand abspielen

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $52.50
      SB:
      $50.90
      BB:
      $53.55
      CO (Hero):
      $56.85


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 8.
      Hero raises to $1.75, BU folds, SB calls $1.50, BB folds.

      Flop: ($4) Q, 5, 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $7.50, Hero calls $5.00.

      Turn: ($19) 5 (2 players)
      SB bets $14.00, Hero calls $14.00.

      River: ($47) A (2 players)
      SB bets $27.65(All-In), Hero calls $27.65.

      Final Pot: $102.3.


      Op: 31/27/2.7/23 3bet 19.4 179 hands


      Flop cbet cause there are tons of draws and its unlikely he has a queen(AQ/KQ 3bet, QJ probably too and rest too bad to coldcall against my range). His check/raising range can be narrowed to draws and sometimes 55(88 is close because he would 3bet it a lot of the time preflop and I have an 8, so I dont take it into consideration), but I dont think he is pure bluff check/raising this board very often. Anyway the turncard is probably one of the greatest cards in the deck, as his value check/raising range is sooo thin and his rest is beat by my hand, maybe a shove would be nice here but I somehow didnt think about that(I would love a shove there now :D ).
      The rivercard looks like a troublecard, but if u seriously think about it the only hand that improves his range is something like ATs with a nutflushdraw and there are sooo few Aces in his range because of his big 3betting range. So I call and wanna see his bluff ;) .
    • oksanka77
      oksanka77
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 1,247
      1)Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($108) 24/14/af 1.0 1.8 2.0/agr freq 27% 44% 40%(15)/wts 30/hands 230
      Hero ($50.50)
      UTG ($50)
      UTG+1 ($50)
      UTG+2 ($152)
      CO ($50.75)
      BTN ($49.25)

      Dealt to Hero 5:spade: J:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

      FLOP ($1.50) J:club: 9:spade: K:spade:

      SB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BTN folds, SB calls $1.10

      TURN ($3.70) J:club: 9:spade: K:spade: 9:club:

      SB checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($3.70) J:club: 9:spade: K:spade: 9:club: Q:spade:

      SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $8, Hero calls $5.50

      Pot odds are 29.3% on the river, and against the estimated range we have 29.5%. Should i call?

      Board: jc9sks 9c qs
      Dead:

      Player 1: 29.412 % 29.412 % 0.000 % 70.588 % Js5s
      Player 2: 70.588 % 70.588 % 0.000 % 29.412 % As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, Q9s, Ts7s, Ts6s, Ts5s, 8s7s, 8s6s, 8s5s, 7s6s, 7s5s, 6s5s, Q9o

      2) I released after hand that blockbet is the worst option here, because only TT is worse hand wich could call here . Should I ch/c or ch/f river?

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($12)
      BB ($51.25)
      UTG ($15.90)
      UTG+1 ($51.85)
      UTG+2 ($50)
      MP1 ($50.25)
      Hero ($100)
      BTN ($53.65) 82/0/af 13.0 2.5 1.0/agr freq 81%(16) 100%(5)/hands 18

      Dealt to Hero A:heart: A:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.25) 4:diamond: 9:spade: 9:club:

      Hero bets $3, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $3

      TURN ($16.25) 4:diamond: 9:spade: 9:club: J:diamond:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $5.75, Hero raises to $15.50, BTN calls $9.75

      RIVER ($47.25) 4:diamond: 9:spade: 9:club: J:diamond: J:club:

      Hero bets $12.50, BTN calls $12.50

      3)Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($50.25)
      BB ($50)
      UTG ($68.85)
      UTG+1 ($80.05) 24/24/hands 20
      CO ($52.75)
      BTN ($38.70)

      Dealt to Hero J:spade: J:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5, fold, UTG+1 calls $3.50

      FLOP ($10.50) K:diamond: 6:diamond: 5:club:

      Hero bets $6, UTG+1 calls $6

      TURN ($22.50) K:diamond: 6:diamond: 5:club: 8:heart:

      Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $14, Hero calls $14

      RIVER ($50.50) K:diamond: 6:diamond: 5:club: 8:heart: 2:spade:

      Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $55.05 (AI), Hero calls $25.25 (AI)

      4)Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($25.25)
      BB ($55.70)
      UTG ($49.90)
      UTG+1 ($68.20)
      Hero ($52.95)
      MP1 ($26.20)
      CO ($87.70)
      BTN ($51.65) 40/9/af 1.7 4.6 inf/ agr freq 34%(85) 50%(46) 60%(25)/fold to CB flop 67%(18)/bet vs missed turn CB IP 100%(4)/wts 18/hands 256

      Dealt to Hero J:spade: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, BTN calls $1.75, fold, BB calls $1.25

      FLOP ($5.50) K:spade: 3:spade: K:club:

      BB checks, Hero bets $3.20, BTN calls $3.20, BB folds

      TURN ($11.90) K:spade: 3:spade: K:club: 9:heart:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

      RIVER ($21.90) K:spade: 3:spade: K:club: 9:heart: 9:diamond:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero folds

      BTN wins $20.85

      5) [B]Should i bet turn, river here? Which bet size will be optimal on the river?[/B]

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($44.30)
      BB ($50.45)
      UTG ($54.40)
      UTG+1 ($44.70)
      UTG+2 ($70.75)
      CO ($78.70)
      Hero ($65.35)

      Dealt to Hero J:spade: T:spade:

      fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $1.75, fold, Hero calls $1.75, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.25) 7:club: 9:diamond: 6:spade:

      UTG+2 bets $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, UTG+2 calls $5

      TURN ($19.25) 7:club: 9:diamond: 6:spade: K:heart:

      UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $12, UTG+2 calls $12

      RIVER ($43.25) 7:club: 9:diamond: 6:spade: K:heart: 4:diamond:

      UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $27, UTG+2 folds

      Hero shows J:spade: T:spade:

      Hero wins $41.10
    • smartguy0815
      smartguy0815
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2008 Posts: 865
      deleted - have to go will ask it next time