[NL2-NL10] NL25 - C-Bets on Paired or Trip Boards

    • Kknight
      Kknight
      Global
      Joined: 30.04.2007 Posts: 374
      Hand 1:
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

      MP2 ($26.15)
      MP3 ($39)
      CO ($32.45)
      Hero ($5)
      SB ($10.25)
      BB ($36.75)
      UTG ($19.65)
      UTG+1 ($15)
      MP1 ($7.05)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with K:club: , Q:heart: .
      [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#CC3333]Hero raises to $1.5[/color], SB calls $1.40, [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], MP1 calls $1.25, MP2 folds.

      Flop: ($5) T:heart: , T:diamond: , T:spade: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($5) 2:heart: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      [color:#CC3333]SB bets $1.5[/color], MP1 folds, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $5

      No point in c-betting here with two opponents, correct? I figure any pocket pair could potentially check-raise, and any Ace is likely to call. If someone has the case ten, they're probably likely to slowplay.


      Hand 2:
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

      MP3 ($21.45)
      CO ($14.15)
      Button ($10.70)
      SB ($4.20)
      Hero ($5.35)
      UTG ($3)
      UTG+1 ($3.15)
      MP1 ($27.40)
      MP2 ($25.40)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:diamond: , Q:heart: .
      [color:#666666]4 folds[/color], MP3 calls $0.25, [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], SB completes, [color:#CC3333]Hero raises to $1.75[/color], MP3 calls $1.50, SB folds.

      Flop: ($3.75) 5:heart: , 8:spade: , 5:diamond: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      [color:#CC3333]Hero bets $3.6 (All-In)[/color], MP3 calls $3.60.

      Turn: ($0) 8:diamond: [color:#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

      River: ($0) J:heart: [color:#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

      Final Pot: $10.95

      I'm always concerned about c-betting a paired board...aren't I likely to only get calls from hands that have me beat?

      Thanks,
      Kknight
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      1) Against two opponents it is better check behind and fold ui with KQ, with AK, AQ, AJ I would push for fold equity.
      2) You have to bet to win the pot. Sometimes they happens to have trips, but here I can´t put MP3 5x, so your push was good, and even if the board would be AAJ, I would push, because you just want to win the pot and you are often ahead.
    • Nunki
      Nunki
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 865
      1)NH. I'd be careful about pushing with A-K/Q here since I doubt your SS would fold out any PP's. Pushing KQ here would make more sense if you think your opponent is capable of folding an A. Small PP's are sometimes the only hand that some villains will open-limp so be careful here. You played this hand fine IMO.

      2)Paired boards are good in general to c-bet. There are only 5 cards to match (in the sense of pairs etc.) as opposed to 9 cards in un-paired flops. On this basis paired boards are less likely to have hit anyone in general.
      As played NH since plenty of PP's will pay you off here. Loose players may also "try and keep you honest" and pay you off with A-high here as well.

      Any villain regularly playing with a 5 in his hand vs. a decent SSer will be value-bet to death. If you get shown a 5 here then this villain is your friend. Be kind. :D
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      Joined: 12.07.2006 Posts: 5,644
      Both hand were played well. :)

      Hand 2.)
      Often a 8 or a another Pocket Pair will pay you off here, since they often but you only on Two Overcards. ;)
    • Kknight
      Kknight
      Global
      Joined: 30.04.2007 Posts: 374
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      but here I can´t put MP3 5x
      I couldn't either, but he had K5o :rolleyes: I guess this hand goes into the "You called my pre-flop raise with what!?" file ;)

      Originally posted by Nunki
      If you get shown a 5 here then this villain is your friend. Be kind.
      LOL...absolutely...I did tell him nh :D

      Originally posted by Berliner1982
      Often a 8 or a another Pocket Pair will pay you off here, since they often but you only on Two Overcards.
      Good point...thanks Berliner.

      Thanks all,
      Kknight