SSS Fail - Please Help!

    • cauelaratta
      cauelaratta
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      Hello everyone!

      I´m writing to report my desperation. I don´t know if this situation i´m living is normal, if I´m on a downswing or whatever.

      Anyway, the thing is: I received my $50 starting capital two days ago. Since then, I´ve been playing according to SSS on limits $0.05/0.10 on Party Poker.

      From day 1 to day 2 my account droped from $50 to $34. From day 2 to day 3, it dropped from $34 to $20.

      I was like "what the f*** is going on?". I simply can´t understand it, so I´m asking for advice.

      I played on 6-7 tables, witch is perfectly fine to me because I´m used to multi-tabling, since I´ve played for about 3 years for Play Money. I didn´t take any rushed decisions. I played the SSS perfectly, hand by hand. I didn´t digress a single hair from the charts. Also, I´m sure I wasn´t tilted (by the way, that´s one of the beauties of SSS, since you just have to follow a simple chart, it´s almost tilt-proof).

      When I reached $35, a tried to switch to a lower limit, but $0.02/0.04 tables on Party poker require a minimum buy-in of $2, witch puts me out of the possibility of playing the SSS.

      SSS is the most tight and secure poker strategy I know. I expected to lose a little bit or break even, but losing 62% of my stack in two days was a huge shock.

      The problem seems obvious to me. There are simply too many shortstackers playing at Party Poker, at least at $0.05/0.10 limit. You can´t find a table without at least 4 of them! Since SSS is a strategy designed to be used against big stacks and loose players, it just loses power against a table full os shortstackers. I didn´t get any multiple calls when I played!

      I mean, what good is to play QQ if you either don´t get called or only get called by AA? Seriously, I lost with KK vs AA four times in two days! Come on!!

      If you guys have any piece of advice, please help me! I´m absolutely addicted to poker, I spend hours studying it and I want become a good player more than anything in the world! I´m simply fascinated by this game and the possibilities it offers!

      Also, I need loose/bad players! Where can I find them?


      Thanks in advance


      Cauê




      PS.: sorry for the lousy English
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    • MancaMulas
      MancaMulas
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      I tell you what's wrong: Table Selection

      Sort tables by players/flop, and enter the waiting lists. When the players/flop fall below 30%, leave the table and look for another one. don't worry about the players with stack between 15 and 25bb... most of them are just donkeys

      with tight tables, SSS just won't work. remember that.
    • mata123
      mata123
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      try bss....if you are familiar with poker,it's much better for your bankroll and poker development...i had the same problem like you when playing sss,lost half of my bankroll(maybe i was doing some hudge mistakes),but even if you play it to perfection it requires a lot of luck,and gives mediocre results
    • cauelaratta
      cauelaratta
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      You know, I think that´s what I´ll do. I take these $50 as a money for learning, and since SSS is not teaching me anything (except how to handle disppointment), I guess I´ll try BSS.

      I know that means nothing, but before starting to play for real money, I made myself a challenge to see how much time it would take to turn 1.000 play money into 1 million. I did it in 24 hours of gameplay, and even not knowing BSS at that time, I realized I was playing more or less by the same strategy, just not so precisely.

      That´s it. Studying outs and odds and going for BSS.

      I´ll be reporting soon. Wish me luck!

      Thanks for the advice and feel free to say more,



      Cauê
    • ihufa
      ihufa
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      SSS is a hoax
    • Heffron89
      Heffron89
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      You forgot one big thing... Luck is a major part of poker and u could have started in a downswing who knows? allso SSS is veryyyyyy swingy.
    • nmenry
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      try nl4 bss on party poker... i was also losing money on nl25 sss, so i switched to nl4 bss and things started to get better. the competition is really soft, just play nice and tight. also, nl10 on party is so full of shortstacks, it's really hard to find a table.
    • cauelaratta
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      What is the best site to avoid shortstackers and goos players? People say Poker Stars have better players, while Everest is full of donkeys.

      What is your opinion?
    • Zephyr999
      Zephyr999
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      i play on everest atm nl10 sss, extremly brutal... seen 1 fish at a table rest is SSS maybe 1 or 2 BSS, thats it people are super Tight it seems like 90% of the players there come from Here. The client is shit, you cant Multi table because the windows wont Pop up for you, so you either relocate a table where its your turn or you blind out -> dont go there
    • tokyoaces
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      Originally posted by cauelaratta
      while Everest is full of donkeys.

      What is your opinion?
      Everest is great at NL50 and NL100, but the traffic sucks. I usually go there, short stack through my monthly bonus and then withdrawal. Then they will eventually give you a crappy hard-to-clear bonus and so you have to retire for a few months.

      I would never recommend it as your primary site though. PokerStars has tons of bad players at the micros.
    • elhh82
      elhh82
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      strangely Everest has more traffic on NL100 than on NL50.
    • chuongdk
      chuongdk
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      SSS is easy to learn so there are many of them, you can try other type if you can not deal with that, for ex: BSS with deep table, SnG, Fixed Limit, SH or Omaha
    • cauelaratta
      cauelaratta
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      Well, I switched to BSS on NL0.02 and things got pretty better. I made 26 bucks in 2 days, and then got into a huge downswing, which tool me back to $30.

      Some players are really unbelievable. They will pay anything to see all the community cards, even if they´re expecting something like a gutshot! I get really pissed everytime I lose to them.

      Here´s an example:

      ***** Hand History for Game 8948779606 *****
      $2 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, February 23, 14:23:22 EST 2010
      Table Table 169494 (Real Money)
      Seat 3 is the button
      Total number of players : 8/9
      Seat 3: CHARLESMEN1 ( $2.91 USD )
      Seat 8: Eldorader ( $1.77 USD )
      Seat 9: Schackalu ( $5.04 USD )
      Seat 2: SzChrisz77 ( $0 USD )
      Seat 5: Unvorgivener ( $0.60 USD )
      Seat 7: cauelaratta ( $1.65 USD )
      Seat 1: peterthepan1 ( $1.40 USD )
      Seat 4: sprilli ( $3.44 USD )
      sprilli posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
      cauelaratta posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to cauelaratta [ Qc 2s ]
      Eldorader folds
      Schackalu calls [$0.02 USD]
      peterthepan1 folds
      CHARLESMEN1 calls [$0.02 USD]
      Jordan23M888 has joined the table.
      sprilli calls [$0.01 USD]
      cauelaratta checks
      ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Qh, 5c ]
      Unvorgivener has left the table.
      sprilli bets [$0.02 USD]
      casi4999 has joined the table.
      cauelaratta raises [$0.14 USD]
      Schackalu calls [$0.14 USD]
      CHARLESMEN1 folds
      Jordan23M888 has left the table.
      sprilli folds
      ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
      platonys has joined the table.
      cauelaratta bets [$0.18 USD]
      Schackalu raises [$0.36 USD]
      cauelaratta raises [$0.90 USD]
      Schackalu calls [$0.72 USD]
      ** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
      cauelaratta is all-In [$0.41 USD]
      Schackalu calls [$0.41 USD]
      cauelaratta shows [ Qc, 2s ]two pairs, Queens and Twos.
      Schackalu shows [ 3d, 4d ]a straight, Three to Seven.
      Schackalu wins $3.20 USD from the main pot with a straight, Three to Seven.



      ..... come on, give me a break.


      But anyway, that´s better than good players, right?

      Anyway, back to NL0.02. I just wanna reach $100 bucks soon to move up a limit. I have this feeling that it will take ages to start really making some money, even if just a little.


      Thanks for everything! Poker Strategy is a bless.


      huggs,

      Cauê
    • cauelaratta
      cauelaratta
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      .... and a few more to cheer my day up!


      ***** Hand History for Game 8949702024 *****
      $2 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, February 23, 18:22:30 EST 2010
      Table Table 169497 (Real Money)
      Seat 8 is the button
      Total number of players : 9/9
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to cauelaratta [ 8c 8h ]
      Forest1155 calls [$0.02 USD]
      Gabriel8xx folds
      Inh09 folds
      cauelaratta calls [$0.02 USD]
      IIIypMeJleB folds
      dariusnf calls [$0.02 USD]
      rolyat_AJ folds
      carvajr calls [$0.01 USD]
      JMpopi will be using his time bank for this hand.
      JMpopi checks
      ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 6d, 7s ]
      carvajr checks
      JMpopi checks
      Forest1155 checks
      cauelaratta bets [$0.10 USD]
      dariusnf raises [$0.20 USD]
      carvajr folds
      JMpopi folds
      Forest1155 folds
      cauelaratta calls [$0.10 USD]
      ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
      cauelaratta bets [$0.24 USD]
      dariusnf calls [$0.24 USD]
      ** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
      cauelaratta bets [$0.70 USD]
      dariusnf raises [$2.28 USD]
      cauelaratta is all-In [$0.76 USD]
      dariusnf shows [ 7d, Kd ]four of a kind, Sevens.
      cauelaratta doesn't show [ 8c, 8h ]a full house, Sevens full of Eights.
      dariusnf wins $0.82 USD from the side pot 1 with four of a kind, Sevens.
      dariusnf wins $3.71 USD from the main pot with four of a kind, Sevens.



      --



      ***** Hand History for Game 8949725799 *****
      $2 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, February 23, 18:26:05 EST 2010
      Table Table 169187 (Real Money)
      Seat 8 is the button
      Total number of players : 9/9
      cauelaratta posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
      alfedco posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to cauelaratta [ 2h Ah ]
      Dang3rMous3 folds
      pokermazk calls [$0.02 USD]
      JaumeC calls [$0.02 USD]
      carvajr folds
      JJusto folds
      fola11 calls [$0.02 USD]
      dannybarkof4 calls [$0.02 USD]
      cauelaratta calls [$0.01 USD]
      alfedco checks
      ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 8c, Qh ]
      cauelaratta checks
      alfedco checks
      pokermazk bets [$0.09 USD]
      JaumeC folds
      fola11 raises [$0.18 USD]
      dannybarkof4 folds
      cauelaratta calls [$0.18 USD]
      alfedco folds
      pokermazk raises [$0.33 USD]
      fola11 is all-In [$0.03 USD]
      cauelaratta calls [$0.24 USD]
      ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
      cauelaratta checks
      pokermazk bets [$0.56 USD]
      cauelaratta calls [$0.56 USD]
      ** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
      cauelaratta is all-In [$0.75 USD]
      pokermazk calls [$0.75 USD]
      cauelaratta shows [ 2h, Ah ]a flush, Ace high.
      pokermazk shows [ Th, 9h ]a straight flush, Queen high.
      fola11 doesn't show [ Kh, Td ]a pair of Eights.
      pokermazk wins $2.89 USD from the side pot 1 with a straight flush, Queen high.
      pokermazk wins $0.72 USD from the main pot with a straight flush, Queen high.



      this last one is unbelievable....
    • elhh82
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      ouch, nice setups

      one from me

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Everest
      SB ($0.50)
      Hero ($9)
      UTG ($8.25)
      UTG+1 ($13.70)
      UTG+2 ($69.50)
      MP1 ($61.65)
      CO ($17.35)
      BTN ($61.30)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: A:heart:

      UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25 (AI), Hero raises to $9 (AI), fold, fold, fold

      FLOP ($2.50) A:club: 6:heart: 3:diamond:

      TURN ($2.50) A:club: 6:heart: 3:diamond: 3:heart:

      RIVER ($2.50) A:club: 6:heart: 3:diamond: 3:heart: 7:diamond:

      Hero shows Q:diamond: A:heart:
      (Pre 72%, Flop 84.4%, Turn 85.2%)

      SB shows 7:club: A:spade:
      (Pre 28%, Flop 15.6%, Turn 14.8%)

      SB wins $2.40

      SB actually cheated. He disconnected at the perfect moment. Sucked out on me and won the minium. LULZ
    • tokyoaces
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      Originally posted by elhh82
      strangely Everest has more traffic on NL100 than on NL50.
      I meant I've rarely seen more than 10 tables of either one there. Usually I can't even 8 table because by the time a spot frees up on a new table I've already doubled up at one or two others.

      However, Everest is the only poker room where I sat down with 20BB and left with 110BB by the time the big blind came around again. :D
    • elhh82
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      everest is the only poker room where i can get sucked out in 4-5 tables at once and lose 100bb in 5 minutes.
    • skatelouis
      skatelouis
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      BS NL2 on Party Poker, you will make a lot of moneys fast.
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
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      Originally posted by elhh82
      everest is the only poker room where i can get sucked out in 4-5 tables at once and lose 100bb in 5 minutes.
      Start a new thread and we can post our worst of the worst Everest suck-outs. :)

      Still Everest is the place where I learned that SSS is wickedly profitable. So it must go both ways ...

      .
    • elhh82
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      yea, SSS on everest used to be wicked for me too. ran 50 dollars up to 1.2k in 3 months, all the while learning how to play.

      but i've since most of it back thanks to some bizzare beats on NL100 :p
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