[NL20-NL50] 11-12 outs=ship?

    • fun101rockets
      fun101rockets
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,162
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $36.25
      BU:
      $72.95
      SB:
      $42.70
      BB (Hero):
      $52.55
      MP2:
      $58.50
      MP3:
      $17.65


      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
      MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, BU raises to $1.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $5.00, MP2 calls $4.50, BU folds.

      Flop: ($11.25) 8, A, 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $11.25, Hero raises to $47.55, MP2 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $22.5.
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      c/rai is reasonable line, but if you´re not never folding there and I doubt MP2 would b/f Ax hand, wouldn´t be better just call him down. This way he can bluff his stack off with worse hands and since you likely hold the best hand and best draw then don´t see why you should get all-in necessary on the flop
    • fun101rockets
      fun101rockets
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      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,162
      if the turns blanks (and he had Ax) and he ships, my allin equity gets cut in half.If i hit my flush he might fold Ax on turn
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      my line for c/c flop and turn was that case, when he was bluffing with way worse hand, like JT with flushdraw that is drawing almost to dead.
      sure, if you hit your flush and he doesn´t have flush with top pair, he would likely not put more money in the pot. But if you c/rai you´re still behind against his top pair hand, so that doesn´t really change anything
    • awishformore
      awishformore
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      Joined: 16.06.2007 Posts: 922
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      my line for c/c flop and turn was that case, when he was bluffing with way worse hand, like JT with flushdraw that is drawing almost to dead.
      sure, if you hit your flush and he doesn´t have flush with top pair, he would likely not put more money in the pot. But if you c/rai you´re still behind against his top pair hand, so that doesn´t really change anything
      Villain could however fold stronger (top pair) hands in this case, while calling with weaker (draw) hands. I don't think it is that likely that he will keep betting with weaker hands, so I personally also prefer the ship here by far.