[NL2-NL10] NL5 AQ TPTK flop shove

    • Duudalinja
      Joined: 21.12.2009 Posts: 1,030
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BB (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A.
      2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.15, 4 folds, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10.

      Flop: ($0.45) 9, 9, Q (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.45, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.50, MP1 raises to $3.57, Hero calls $2.07.

      Turn: ($7.59) 2 (2 players)

      River: ($7.59) T (2 players)

      Final Pot: $7.59.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, queens and nines(Qs Ac).
      MP1 shows a straight, king high(Kd Js).

      MP1 wins with a straight, king high(Kd Js).

      opp stats: 16/8

      Flop: flop seemed as good as it could be, because it's unlikely that he could hold 9 and he's in bad shape if he has Qx, so my re-raise was logical and couldn't fold on shove.

      Thinking from other side after playing hand - what could he could, so he would shove after my 3bet? Normal player after such a flop and re-raise would fold AK, any pocket underpair and there's practically no draws out there, so basically after such a move from him most likely I will be behind him, won't I?
  • 3 replies
    • amplifyd
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 1,769
      Fine imo, nh - I'm not folding here esp since he doesn't even have a full stack.
    • Termis
      Joined: 01.07.2007 Posts: 149
      I think call is ok since he is not full stacked. Anyway I would still think twice about calling his push. His flop pot sized bet looks quite strong. I think he could protect JJ 1010 this way, but 3bet push says he could be might as well be holding AA or KK.

      Sometimes i call, sometimes i fold these situations. Really depends on the reads mostly. Often enough I see these players steaming with underpairs or something like TP2K
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      I'll usually just call to give him a chance to bluff again or valuebet a worse Qx, knowing if he has me beat i'm not getting away anyway. Players who will call it off on the flop with Qx usually won't be able to fold it on later streets anyway, so the value in a raise relies more on villain being able to felt some kind of drawing hand or complete buff, as well as underpairs if he's bad (happens sorta often actually).

      Whatever you do, don't raise/fold it.

      Hope it helps.