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[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH AQ vs 3bet

    • DeLau
      DeLau
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.01.2009 Posts: 1,606
      Villain 3bets 5%. Should I fold somewhere in the hand? I shove turn because I dont want to see another spade on the river.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3 (Hero):
      $50.00
      CO:
      $110.50
      BU:
      $59.80
      SB:
      $50.25
      BB:
      $59.75
      MP2:
      $50.00


      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, A.
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, SB raises to $5.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4.00.

      Flop: ($11.5) 8, 7, A (2 players)
      SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50.

      Turn: ($26.5) 7 (2 players)
      SB bets $15.00, Hero raises to $37.00(All-In), SB calls $22.00(All-In).

      River: ($100.5) 9 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $100.5.
  • 5 replies
    • awishformore
      awishformore
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2007 Posts: 922
      I don't really see why you would shove on this turn, all you do is get rid of his bluffs and weaker hands imo. The flush draw has already hit and a straight draw isn't that likely. The 7 and 88 has you beat anyway and weaker aces might still fold to your shove. I think this is a call-down at best and if there is another spade on the river, tough luck.

      I however don't play SH and I have no idea how easily you can go broke in a 3-bet pot, so I don't know if you can go broke here - I would say it depends on the opponents AF and WTS.
    • DeLau
      DeLau
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.01.2009 Posts: 1,606
      His AF is 2.33 and WTS is 29%, so not really out of line.

      About the turn shove, I 'm not afraid about the straight draw, and suited hands are only a small part of his range so it is much more likely for him to have one spade. If I shove here, he has 4:1 odds, so I think he will call with any spade. I also doubt if AJ will fold here.
      I understand your arguments for the calldown but there are definitely arguments for a shove as well.

      The real question is, what is his rangen on this turn? Is he 2nd barreling KK-JJ because he now has a flush draw, or does he only have AA, AK, AQ and maybe AJ?
    • SheepMoose
      SheepMoose
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.01.2009 Posts: 854
      Fold preflop.
    • DeLau
      DeLau
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.01.2009 Posts: 1,606
      I didn't because I have position and I don't want to fold to 3bets to often.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      if he only 3-bet 5% then fold is likely better pf
      postflop, I would likely just raise flop to represent draw and then get all-in
      You´re ahead sometimes AJ TT-KK, split AQ and since you´re reping draw he can easily shove/call with pp and unless he improves, like also getting there with flushdraw he would c/f turn anyway
      shove turn is fine. I think villain might b/c there TT-KK with flushdraws