[NL2-NL10] set vs set, AQ vs set, flush vs flush

    • Stiiw66
      Stiiw66
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2009 Posts: 5
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $16.59
      UTG1:
      $39.28
      UTG2:
      $32.53
      MP1 (Hero):
      $22.30
      MP2:
      $50.98
      MP3:
      $25.10
      CO:
      $24.24
      BU:
      $17.07
      SB:
      $11.69


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7, 7.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 6 folds.

      Flop: ($2.05) 7, 3, J (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $1.50, Hero raises to $6.00, UTG2 raises to $12.00, Hero raises to $21.45, UTG2 calls $9.45.

      Turn: ($44.95) K (2 players)


      River: ($44.95) T (2 players)


      Final Pot: $44.95.
      Results follow:

      UTG2 shows three of a kind, jacks(J J).
      Hero shows three of a kind, sevens(7 7).

      UTG2 wins with three of a kind, jacks(J J).

      Is it ok to go allin here?




      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $30.57
      MP3:
      $13.33
      CO (Hero):
      $32.64
      BU:
      $18.69
      SB:
      $61.50
      BB:
      $36.01
      UTG1:
      $6.71
      UTG2:
      $12.66
      MP1:
      $26.45


      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, A.
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($4.85) Q, 4, 3 (3 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $3.00, BU calls $3.00, MP3 folds.

      Turn: ($10.85) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.25, BU calls $6.25.

      River: ($23.35) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $7.94, Hero calls $7.94.

      Final Pot: $39.23.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of queens(Q A).
      BU shows three of a kind, threes(3 3).

      BU wins with three of a kind, threes(3 3).

      I think I played this hand well to the river. I thought that there could be a set somewhere there. Possibly I could have checked the turn(potcontrol), but since I got some new outs, I decided to bet. And on the river, the pot was so big I decided to call.
      When I look at it now, I should have check/called the turn, and folded on the river, when I hadn't completed my flush? Your opinions?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      CO (Hero):
      $20.06
      BU:
      $28.28
      SB:
      $25.00
      BB:
      $28.83
      UTG2:
      $26.34
      MP1:
      $39.35
      MP2:
      $26.45
      MP3:
      $36.99


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 6, 5.
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BU folds, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($3) 2, A, T (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB calls $2.00, BB folds.

      Turn: ($7) 5 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, SB calls $4.25.

      River: ($15.5) 8 (2 players)
      SB bets $8.75, Hero calls $8.75.

      Final Pot: $33.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a flush, ace high(6 5).
      SB shows a flush, ace high(9 J).

      SB wins with a flush, ace high(9 J).



      Now in this hand I must confess I was steaming a bit. On flop i made a standard cbet, I shouldn't have bet the turn right?( that was a bit steamy bet to me) Checking behind and calling the river would have been the best play? Your comments and opinions?

      Sorry for any grammar mistakes.
      Thanks.

      Oh, and should I make a new thread for every hand?
  • 2 replies
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,



      General stuff: please hide the results of the hands and post one hand per thread unless the hands are closely related, like relevant history against the same opponent or a particular spot you have recurrent trouble with.


      #1

      It's fine obviously, we're not looking to fold middle set almost ever. Just a cooler, it'll even out eventually.


      #2

      Since BU isn't rebuying and looks just bad overall, i'm going for 3 streets with TPTK on such a dry board and i'm happy with it, if he has me beat good for him. So shove the river yourself, you gain nothing by check/calling. The only real draw on the flop got there on the turn, so he can't really bluff at you. What will happen most of the time is he'll check behind all the hands you beat and bet all the hands that beat you, which is no good. check/folding >> check/calling, and since we can't realistically check/fold, shoving ourselves is better.


      #3

      Turn is a dicey spot, it depends on villain and your own preferences.

      Main points are: Ax is never folding, and we beat all pure flushdraws now with our 5's, so the standard would be to check back the turn and reevaluate on a blank river depending on villain valuebetting/bluffing abilities.

      That being said some good players routinely bet that spot for metagame reasons because they feel it gives them more room to work with, so it's not by all means a mandatory check back. Still, i'd recommend you check it back until you know why you might want to bet again.



      Hope it helps.
    • Stiiw66
      Stiiw66
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2009 Posts: 5
      Thank you for the fast feedback, made me feel better.
      I will also keep the tips in mind.

      If anyone has any more opinions feel free to post them.