[NL2-NL10] JJ v river donk

    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($19.48)
      BB ($3.60)
      UTG ($5.69)
      UTG+1 ($9.74)
      UTG+2 ($10.65)
      MP1 ($11.28)
      Hero ($10)
      CO ($10.65)
      BTN ($8.33)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: J:club:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, fold, SB calls $0.85, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.60

      FLOP ($2.80) 4:heart: 6:club: K:diamond:

      SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $1.70

      TURN ($6.20) 4:heart: 6:club: K:diamond: 2:club:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($6.20) 4:heart: 6:club: K:diamond: 2:club: 5:heart:

      UTG+1 bets $2.70, Hero calls $2.70

      I was worried that he might have called with Kx, so i check the turn. Should i just bet again?

      Can we fold the river? I don't think so eventhough the straight completes.
  • 2 replies
    • x3mwisp
      x3mwisp
      Platinum
      Joined: 31.03.2009 Posts: 3,604
      1st of all u shouldnt 3bet JJ vs utg raise.
      2nd when he calls u on the flop you should give up. no more bets - especially when the straight completes on the river.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,

      Originally posted by x3mwisp
      1st of all u shouldnt 3bet JJ vs utg raise.
      2nd when he calls u on the flop you should give up. no more bets - especially when the straight completes on the river.
      I agree. The value in 3-betting JJ against a UTG raiser is thin at best when he's full stacked and unknown in full ring games. Most of the time reasonable players will call you with a mix of AQ+ and medium to high poker pairs, which means when they check/call that K-high flop when it's obvious your most likely hands are AK/KK+ they usually have JJ 2-outing unless they're really suspicious of you. River is an easy fold you're getting valuetowned way too often.

      If you want you can also check back the flop and call a turn bet from most players, just fold when a nit bets, maybe valuebet somewhat small against worse pocket pairs if you get checked to twice, and mostly fold to a bet on the river regardless if you get there.


      Hope it helps.