[NL2-NL10] NL50 - All-in on the flop (2)

• Global
Joined: 30.04.2007
Hand 1:
No-Limit Hold'em, \$0.50 BB (8 handed)

UTG+1 (\$47.45)
MP1 (\$26.05)
MP2 (\$55.60)
CO (\$49.50)
Button (\$34.70)
Hero (\$9.50)
BB (\$68.80)
UTG (\$167.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , 8 .
UTG calls \$0.50, UTG+1 calls \$0.50, [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], CO calls \$0.50, [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], [color:#CC3333]Hero raises to \$4[/color], [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], UTG folds, UTG+1 calls \$3.50, CO calls \$3.50.

Flop: (\$13) 2 , 6 , A [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
[color:#CC3333]Hero bets \$5.5 (All-In)[/color], UTG+1 calls \$5.50, CO calls \$5.50.

Turn: (\$10.50) Q [color:#0000FF](3 players, 1 all-in)[/color]
[color:#CC3333]UTG+1 bets \$1.5[/color], CO calls \$1.50.

River: (\$13.50) T [color:#0000FF](3 players, 1 all-in)[/color]
[color:#CC3333]UTG+1 bets \$4[/color], [color:#CC3333]CO raises to \$8[/color], UTG+1 calls \$4.

Final Pot: \$48.50

I've got less than 1/2 the pot on the flop, so it's a push, right?

Hand 2:
No-Limit Hold'em, \$0.50 BB

Button (\$7.30)
SB (\$16.20)
BB (\$42.90)
UTG (\$50.50)
UTG+1 (\$8)
Hero (\$9.75)
MP2 (\$13.20)
CO (\$50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K , A . CO posts a blind of \$0.50.
[color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#CC3333]Hero raises to \$2.5[/color], [color:#666666]1 fold[/color], CO (poster) calls \$2, [color:#666666]3 folds[/color].

Flop: (\$5.75) 8 , J , 9 [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
[color:#CC3333]Hero bets \$4[/color], [color:#CC3333]CO raises to \$8[/color], Hero calls \$3.25 (All-In).

Turn: (\$20.25) 3 [color:#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

River: (\$20.25) 5 [color:#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)[/color]

Final Pot: \$20.25

CO raised my c-bet, but I'm only being asked to call \$3.25 into a \$17.75 pot, so I figured I couldn't fold.

Thanks,
Kknight
• 6 replies
• Bronze
Joined: 06.02.2007
against 3 limpers, I would just complete hand1 and play for set value. Hand2 hits your villain so often, and you don't have many outs, so actually I would play check/fold here. Maybe it's bit weak but the flop is almost worst possible.
• Bronze
Joined: 25.10.2006
1) Against most players just completing here is fine. A standard-sized raise is too often going to lead to difficult post-flop play being OOP with a bloated pot. Open-pushing is alright here too.

2)OOP with a board that could have hit villain in so many ways I agree with Degnic and probably c/f.
• Global
Joined: 30.04.2007
On hand 1 I was actually ahead of both players when I pushed the flop. They were both chasing the flush...which they of course both hit on the turn

Also, I find that most of the time a standard raise here is enough to get it heads up...this was just an exceptionally loose table with two players calling because "my cards are suited! I can't fold these!" One was Kxs the other was Jxs...the x was a low rag in both cases

Thanks,
Kknight
• Bronze
Joined: 14.04.2006
Hi Kknight!

I think that you played Hand 1 correctly. There is a lot of dead money in the pot and you often have the best hand preflop after so many players limped. For this reason a raise is the right play here imo. Push on an A-high flop is correct too because you cannot fold here anymore with your stacksize and you can easily have hit the ace. Nice hand!

In hand 2 I agree with degnic and Nunki.

Good luck at the tables!
Puschkin81
• Global
Joined: 30.04.2007
Originally posted by Puschkin81
In hand 2 I agree with degnic and Nunki.
@Puschkin, degnic & Nunki

What is the deciding factor here? Or is it a combination of all factors (OOP, very coordinated flop.) The reason I ask is that I thought SSS heads up is ALWAYS a c-bet. Also, conceivable calling hands would include low pocket pairs, which would likely fold on a board like this, correct?

Thanks,
Kknight
• Bronze
Joined: 12.07.2006
Hand 1.)
Honestly I open just complete here, when I´m not sure that my chance that everybody fold it over 60% and only play for set Value.
Put like played, its the right Move to go All-In on the Flop, only a Flushdraw and Pocket 66 or 22 should call here. An Ace should be on the flop anyway.

Hand 2.)
Tough the CO Poster can hold any 2 here. Often they just hit an 8, 9 or the Jack and Push since they believe you´re on 2 Overcards. Honestly I go broke here as well. If he has a Pair, I still have 6 Outs + 2.5 Outs for my Backdoor Straight and Flushdraw. So I after discounting maybe 7 Outs and I need 6:1 to call and I get 6.2:1, since I only have to call \$3.25 to win \$20.25.

But its not a mistake to fold here.