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[NL2-NL10] NL5 JJ - not to do

    • shanshichi
      Joined: 28.04.2009 Posts: 378
      Known players:

      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J:diamond: , J:heart:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, CO folds, BU calls $0.16, SB folds, BB calls $0.12.

      Flop: ($0.50) A:heart: , T:heart: , K:heart: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, BU bets $0.24, BB calls $0.24, Hero calls $0.24.

      Turn: ($1.22) Q:diamond: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.16, BU folds, BB calls $1.16.

      River: ($3.54) 9:heart: (2 players)
      BB raises $3.44 (All-In), Hero calls $3.44.

      Final Pot: $10.42

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a flush, ace high (Jd Jh)
      BB shows a flush, ace high (Qh Qc)

      BB wins with a flush, ace high (Qh Qc)

      i think this is something NOT WORTH DOING!
      I played this so BAD.
      First , i think i should've made a c-bet.
      Sencond , if i didn't c-bet , fold the villain bet.
      Third , FOLD the river shove.

      Oh god! i made my self a category of hand in the Elephant called MISTAKES
      and this one is going there , with your comment atached tamairlarace.
  • 1 reply
    • MaestroOfZerg
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510

      I don't think it's horrible as played to be honest. Considering there are two overcards on the flop, as well as possible sets/two pairs/flushes/straights, we won't be very happy if we c-bet and either of these guys raise, and the value we get from worse hands (lone heart, Tx, Qx) is sketchy at best. Once we check since we can't just fold getting 4:1 either with the second nutflush draw when we have no idea what they fish can bet with, calling is reasonable.

      As played the turn is an clear value bet, and on the river we have the 2nd nuts against a 27/5/0.8 so far. We're getting 2:1 on a call and we have no idea how high a flush that guy needs to shove there for value, maybe he jams any flush tho given his stats so far that wouldn't be my first assumption. I think it can go either, i'd probably fold since he can't have a big heart he'd be confident with (they're all on the board or in our hand, except the one that beats us), i don't think the fish is so inclined to open jam low flushes. But calling certainly isn't awful if you have doubts about him maybe shoving worse.

      Hope it helps.