[NL2-NL10] Are this 4bets calls OK?

    • OlteanuMihai
      OlteanuMihai
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      Joined: 04.02.2010 Posts: 6
      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      888
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Chutriel666 ($10.79)
      UTG+1 kate1990 ($13.27)
      CO Hero ($11.91)
      BTN cass7111 ($10.30)
      SB MCBK06 ($11.19)
      BB LYNXCRAFT ($10.86)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO K:spade: A:diamond:
      Chutriel666 raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 3 folds, Chutriel666 raises to $3.75, Hero calls $2.55

      Flop: J:club: 4:spade: 3:spade: ($7.65, 2 players)
      Chutriel666 goes all-in $7.04, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $14.69

      Chutriel666 wins $14.31 (net +$3.52)

      Hero lost $3.75



      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      888
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Chutriel666 ($14.11)
      CO kate1990 ($12.92)
      BTN Hero ($10.15)
      SB cass7111 ($10.46)
      BB LYNXCRAFT ($11.08)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN J:diamond: J:heart:
      1 fold, kate1990 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 2 folds, kate1990 raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.45

      Flop: J:spade: 10:diamond: 6:spade: ($5.15, 2 players)
      kate1990 checks, Hero bets $4, kate1990 goes all-in $10.42, Hero goes all-in $3.65

      Turn: K:diamond: ($20.45, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: 3:diamond: ($20.45, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $20.45
      kate1990 shows
      Q:heart: Q:spade:
      Hero shows
      J:diamond: J:heart:

      Hero wins $19.43 (net +$9.28)

      kate1990 collects $2.77 (net -$10.15)
  • 3 replies
    • amplifyd
      amplifyd
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      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 1,769
      1st hand : I wouldn't 3-bet UTG with AKo I would prefer calling and playing the hand postflop, certainly fold to the 4-bet.

      2nd hand: I think you can 3-bet here easy but fold to the 4-bet.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      #1

      Depends on how tight UTG is, you want to just call as amplifyd suggested, but i usually 3-bet as a standard.

      That said, once you get 4-bet you can either fold if he's tight or shove if he's loose enough, just calling is the worst option by far.


      #2

      Hard to say since it's BUvCO, people are 3-betting light more and more often even at microstakes, and most likely started 4-betting small a bit to combat that too. It's probably still a fold to the 4-bet against most players, but i wouldn't mind 5-bet jamming against the most aggressive tags.

      Calling will leave you with just about a potsized bet on the flop against a range a bluffs/AK/JJ+, forcing you to fold A and K high flops, and going broke on all other boards hoping he's bluffing or has AK, which accounts for like 16 AK + x bluff combos against 10 combos of JJ+, knowing sometimes he won't c-bet AK on some boards. It's just asking for troubles in my opinion, you're likely better off just folding until you have a better handle on his 4betting range.


      Hope it helps.
    • OlteanuMihai
      OlteanuMihai
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      Joined: 04.02.2010 Posts: 6
      God you are so right i need to analyse situations a bit more.
      i'm such a :f_confused: