[NL2-NL10] Instructional sample hands #6

  • Poll
    • What is the correct move here and why?

      • 23
        bet/fold
        55%
      • 7
        bet/call
        17%
      • 6
        all-in
        14%
      • 4
        check/call
        10%
      • 1
        check/fold
        2%
      • 1
        fold
        2%
      Total: 42 Votes
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      UTG+2 ($9.50)
      MP1 ($14.10)
      MP2 ($10.75)
      MP3 ($30.55)
      CO ($21.95)
      Button ($49.25)
      SB ($9.70) (Hero)
      BB ($48.50)
      UTG+1 ($49.25)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J:club: , Q:club:
      UTG+2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, 1 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 checks,

      Flop: Q:heart: , 3:club: , 5:heart: ( $2.5 )
      Hero bets $1.00, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.00, 1 folds,

      Turn: J:heart: ( $4.5 )
      Hero ???

      How do you play this hand?
  • 12 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would bet 2 $ on the flop.
      I would bet/fold (4$) turn. Checking is bad because villain could bet with flushdraw and Q. Against re-raise my hand isn´t strong enough to get stacked against flush.
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Joined: 25.03.2005 Posts: 18,556
      I bet/fold as well. Fold because I can't draw to a fullhouse. But I bet more on the flop....
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      Joined: 12.07.2006 Posts: 5,644
      First I would not bet this hand OOP on the flop. ;)

      But like played I would play Bet/Call, since I have 2 Pair and often the best hand. Villain could have called with so many hands on the flop, like 44, 66 to 99, KK, AA (some players do that), a straight draw, a made hand like a pair of Q´s, 5´s, a weaker two pair.

      So only thing that beats us right now is 55, 33 and a Flush. So we bet $3 here. We could get a reraise by any Q, any two pair, a set, a flush, a pair with a flushdraw, straightdraw. So my goal would it to get all my money on the table but not only called by better hands.

      Because if we push here we get only called by a set or a flush.
    • MisterB73
      MisterB73
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      Joined: 07.08.2007 Posts: 32
      This is certainly not played according to the SSS. Although I understand that completing on the SB gives good pot odds, this should not be done when sticking to the SSS.

      However, as played I would bet/fold here. Since we have two pair, we have a good hand, but could very well be up against a flush. So, I would bet $3 (2/3 of the pot) and fold against a raise.
    • Mashadar
      Mashadar
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      Joined: 30.08.2007 Posts: 76
      according to the SSS, he should not have betted on the flop at all?

      villain might have called with a flush draw, including the implied odds, not a very bad call.

      now that we have 2 pair, I would bet/fold, since the player will come over the top if he does have something. from my tournament play, I would bet about half the pot here. when you bet half the pot, you only need 1/3 of the time, to break evin. but since it is an online game, players tend to be looser, and call more. and since it is a cash game. I think betting the size of the pot would be correct, and fold if the villain re raises you.


      ( this is my first post btw :P and I am new to the SSS, and cash games. any tips would be welcome. )
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Hi Mashadar!

      Welcome to the forum :D I'll tell you in a few days what I think is the correct play here. Any other thoughts?

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81
    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      Joined: 30.04.2007 Posts: 374
      Well, I'm definitely in the minority, but I voted for all-in. I think that top two pair is strong enough to go broke with when playing the SSS. If you are up against a made flush then so be it. You want to protect against a fourth heart or possible straight draw and you may get paid off by a Qx or weaker two pair.

      IMHO,
      Kknight
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      Over $7 in a $2.5 Pot? Honestly only better hand then yours will call here.
    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      $4.50 pot on the turn, so $7 is 1.5x pot...not a ridiculous overbet.
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      Argh .... *g* I assumed the pot is $2.50 when I post how I would play on the turn. I´m a bit confused these days. :D Thats what happens when you are sick and play 4-5 hours poker every day.

      But still I would play 2/3 Pot Bet and call a Push from Villain.
    • Kknight
      Kknight
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      Joined: 30.04.2007 Posts: 374
      Fair enough ;)
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
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      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Hi guys!

      Most of you were correct: On the flop you should bet more otherwise you don't protect your hand. In addition the bet doesn't show any strength.
      On the turn Hero should bet again because often we still have the best hand. Depending on the opponents you should react differently if they raise you. Against really tight players I would fold but against all other opponents you should go all-in with the hand.

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81